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mike paulson

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hey guy's what are the disadvantages of a 2 point hitch? and what would it cost to convert a 2 point to a 3 point?

i understand that conversion skits are available?
 
I don't believe any of the Fast Hitch tractors had a decent draft control system. Any 2 to 3 point kits do not correct that deficiency. Some have a "feed-back" system of sorts, but not very good compared to most factory 3 point systems. I had a 1955 Super 55 Oliver with a great draft control for it's day... I now have a 1958 240U IH with a factory 2 to 3 point conversion kit, and the feed-back (I won't call it a draft control) doesn't compare.
 
when you get to the 56 series (maybe the 06?), that fast hitch used the same controls, torsion bar and lift cylinder setup as a 3 point tractor. I am sure about 656, 756, 856, 544 farmall. Our tractors from that era all are 3 point, so I have no experience with that fast hitch, but it's likely the best draft control available for a fast hitch, as it's the best ever for 3 point on those tractors according to many in this community (i'm only gonna say its a good system). unfortunately that draft system came too late since the fast hitch market demand was over by that time.

biggest strike against fast hitch is that with adapters the geometry is not 100% correct for all three point equipment. some people have multiple adapters to use almost all their equipment!

One other complaint i've heard is the fast hitch is too low for some tillage operations especially in wet soil and will hang up causing traction issues. I've not seen that first hand however

karl f
 
I have a 706 with a fast hitch and the draft control works as good as any 3pt system of the era . I have 2 sets of adapters and the only problem I have is my chisel plow rides a little low , somtimes it will drag crossing a dith , etc. I ve seen arms with a upward swing to them and that would cure that , just hav nt seen them at a auction yet .
 
One of the big advantages of 3pt hitch is they're still making implements for it. The other big advantage is that implements are more common and usually bring lower prices.

Fast Hitch never really worked as intended. You're supposed to be able to back in and drive away with the implement without even getting off the tractor. Unless conditions are perfect, that doesn't happen. Usually you end up pushing the implement around the yard until you get off and man-handle the implement in place.
 
(quoted from post at 08:18:26 01/14/10)
Fast Hitch never really worked as intended. You're supposed to be able to back in and drive away with the implement without even getting off the tractor. Unless conditions are perfect, that doesn't happen. Usually you end up pushing the implement around the yard until you get off and man-handle the implement in place.
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It was easy on the SC or 200 with the tilt side to side and front to back tied to the touch control. I don't know that any others were that easy.
Back in the early '60s, Cessna developed, along with IH, the one of the best draft control 3 point systems I have ever seen or operated. This would have been for the follow-on the the 460/560 series tractors, but in the end, IH decided to not use it in that series and "ripped off" some of the featues for a later series. I had the opportunity to field test that system in 1965/6 when Oliver was interested and Cessna gave them permission to use whatever they wanted of the design, because Cessna was no longer interested in building it. Until the electronic controlled systems became available, it couldn't be beat. We were able to pull a 4x16" plow with the 460 test bed tractor and minimal added weight. It would keep up with an Oliver 1650 with the same plow. I wish I knew where that tractor is now, probably in a junk yard with no parts to repair it.
 
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