Farmall A a-146 cultivator

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does anyone have pictures they can post or direct us to for this model cultivator? It has Two levers on the left for the mid mounts and a third on the left closer to the middle that adjusts/lifts? the rear cultivators. Any info would be appreciated.
 
That would be the A-136 pipe frame model. The A-138 uses rectangle bar for the main frame. There is also aearly model that only uses one lift lever for thefront section lever bolts to the top of the tranny. All models use the lever mounted on the platform by the drivers seat for the rear section. I think the early model is the A-143. The A-473 is for the veggie model.I do have some pics of the A-138 But i will need your adress to send them. They dont have the guards at the time of the pics. I also have the cisc hillers that i use. I change tooling during the garden season for the different crops.I dont have any pics of the veggie model on the A
 
sorry, meant the a-134. Maybe this was meant to be used with the exhaust lift as the rear lever which is mounted with the two front levers, not the platform, has a pulley at its base.
 
No the A-134 only had one lever that mounted on top of the tranny area. Still had the one on the platform for the rear stuff. iM NOT TRYING TO BE A SMART A;; Just work with this stuff and have i and have used it from time to time. I set the wheels and did three 30 in rows of sweet corn with the A 437 JUST FOR FUN.
 
The cults are the same for both exhaust lift and hand lift just used different lever assys/ I dont have the pipe frame A-136 but i do have the other three models with different types of tooling, Just having fun working with them in the garden. I need your e-mail for the pics.
 
I for got to mention i regged a cult for liquid fert for the sweetcorn mounted the tank behind the seat ran two hoses down to the rows and used water based N on the corn realy worked well. Easier now as the neighbor has many A 24/7 picked daily all summer long till late Sept So just raise other stuff.
 
(quoted from post at 16:59:32 12/25/09)Maybe this was meant to be used with the exhaust lift as the rear lever which is mounted with the two front levers, not the platform, has a pulley at its base.
That sounds like the lift levers used with the exhaust lift. The cable from the lift cylinder went around that pulley. Essentially the same lift parts were used with several different model cultivators.
 
Gene, what is the exhaust lift cultivator # if it is different from the a134? And if what I have isn't a 134, what is it? It is original and I've seen quite a few of them on A's. I know its not a 136 or 138... mounts differently... and don't take this as me being a smart A, but are you going by a a134 manual or your personal knowledge about the lever?

i have found pictures of all the cultivators except this one which i assume is the exhaust/a134 lift. This tractor doesn't have any other exhaust lift components on it nor did other tractors i saw with the same levers with and without a pulley. This lever mounts on the two bolts on top of the tranny behind the shift lever and at front under one of the bolts holding the cult bracket onto the torque tube. The gang bars are S shaped just like the standard a-138, but i have found that those were options for others as well and may not be original to the tractor. The "standard" rear rockshaft is NOT made to accept a platform mount lift... the tab to attach it to a lift lever is on the left side of the rockshaft, but not on the very end of the rockshaft like on the a136 and a138 rockshafts. The a136, a138, and a437 lift levers mount only on the torque tube and the rear cultivators on the a136 and a138 are lifted via a lift link that is a bowed piece of flat steel that mounts on the lift lever via a bracket and then connects to the very end of the rear's rockshaft (standard configuration as per the manual).

Everything i've heard and seen in their manual says that the independant rear lift was used mainly on the a437 vegetable cultivators. This makes sense because of the additional weight of the mid mount vegetable toolbars would make it much harder to lift them all together. Also the rear cultivators for the 437 are listed as a special attachment as well as the independant rear lift lever, not standard. You could use the independant rear lift with the independant rockshaft on the others, but that wasn't listed as the "standard" configuration.

I found at binder books that the A-134 cultivators are listed as one row cotton and corn cultivators. I'm ordering it to see what it looks like compared to mine. I know for sure that the lift levers that mounts at the rear of the tranny and at one point on the torgue tube like I have is not for the 136, 138, or 437 cultivators because they are never shown in that manual. Another A I saw recently had the same lever I have with the exception that the rear arm with the pulley had been removed, apperently because the past owners either removed the rear cultivators or opted to use the optional independant rears. From what I hear, most simply didn't use the rears. I've searched the internet for DAYS for pictures of the a-134 and binder books has the only reference to them I've seen. The manual for the a134 and a 435 vegetable cultivators was printed in 1940 versus 1945 for the a136, a138, and a437 veg cultivators. Its MCD-4704 at binder books if anyone is interested. My conclusion is that the lever i speak of was used with and without the exhaust assist. If i can figure out how to post a picture on here of it, i will as soon as I take a picture of it. And this is an original lift lever with two levers for the front and a third, inboard lever that connects to the left side of the rear rockshaft... All three are mounted together, with one heavy spring for the two levers that lift the mid mounts and a smaller spring for the rear lever. The pulley is also mounted at the pivot point for the rear lever. I'll try and get a picture up today. I don't have it mounted on the tractor cause it isn't painted yet, but I'll lay it out how it goes.
 
Gene, you seem to be of the thinking that the independant rear lift was the only system offered... which isn't the case at all. The a136 and a138 standard configuration (in other words cheaper because of less parts) simply used a bowed piece of steel and a bracket that attached the two front levers to the rear rockshaft to lift them all together at once. The independant was an option to give them the ability to adjust the depth independantly as well as obviously lift them independantly of the mid mounts... if it was the only option they wouldn't have called them "independant" they would have just called them the rear cultivator lever, right? The one I have lets you adjust the depth of the rears independant of the mids, but they are all lifted together I think anyway. The one I saw mounted, this third lever lifted them independantly of the front, but looked like it was a PITA to try and lift them because the lever handle rested near the rear of the tranny. Seemed to me that it was simply mounted wrong maybe and that the two front levers would attach to it and lift it... we'll see. Haven't messed with it much yet. Thats why i'm looking for pics or manuals for it... cause a lot of things will work when hooked up wrong... they just won't work right.
 
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I found a picture of the levers i am speaking of and they were indeed used on the exhaust assist lift. In the picture, you can see the rear lever I mentioned in another post, but I can't make out the smaller spring that is attached to it or whether it is attached to the other two levers or not but at least you can clearly see the lever in question. So is it an a-134 lever or does the exhaust lift have another number? The a-134 and the exhaust lift were both early weren't they if not the same?
 

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