Will Super H rate pulling the same plow as an M?

I just recently bought an old McCormick Little Genius 3 bottom plow that used to be drawn by an M and was wondering if there was any chance that in sandy soil the Super H would pull it effectively because it already has no trouble pulling my 2 bottom McCormick Little Genius so I am wondering if whether or not the Super H has got enough weight to pull it or if I am going to need slightly more ballast perhaps.

In Sandy light soil it will be all it wants, but probably OK. Ballasted tires, or two sets of wts will sure help. Jim

I have pulled a three bottom Little Genius with a warmed up Super H in sandy soil. That Super H was basically running a 350 engine. It pulled the plow very nicely.

I don't know if it would handle a three bottom in heavier soil, and plow adjustment can make a plow pull harder or easier too.

The other thing is weight. An M would have a weight advantage over a Super H too.

You didnt specify 14" or 16" bottoms. Either way, the tractor will know it's pulling that plow. I suspect it may happen with the right light soil, right amount of weight, and everything set right.

A Super H on a three bottom plow would be ridiculous. It would probably work in sand plowing three or four inches deep, but soil that loose probably doesn"t need plowed anyway.

I would not rate it as strong as a good M, but Dad had an H with SH sleeves and pistons and it easily handled 3x14s in our NE Iowa soil which was what we called "timber soil" or a fairly light sandy loam. When I was home we pulled 3x14s with a JD 60 and later Dad's last tractor was a 460 gas with 3x16s... all pull type IH plows.

The SH may be able to pull a 3 bottom but I'd like to see for how long. Might run a little HOT! I know if I had one I wouldnt try it.

(quoted from post at 09:58:25 12/18/09) I just recently bought an old McCormick Little Genius 3 bottom plow that used to be drawn by an M and was wondering if there was any chance that in sandy soil the Super H would pull it effectively because it already has no trouble pulling my 2 bottom McCormick Little Genius so I am wondering if whether or not the Super H has got enough weight to pull it or if I am going to need slightly more ballast perhaps.

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Give it a try and find out. That super H just might fool you, and if it just plain doesn't like it, it's not too hard to change that 3 bottom into a 2 bottom.

With the M having 80 or so more cu in than the SH cant hardly expect the same results

As usual---lots of hot air from you.

A Super H probably wouldn"t pull a 3x as well as an M--but then again it might. He needs to try it. A Super H in good mechanical condition can be a real snorty machine.

As far as getting hot--our Super H just begins to warm up nicely when we are plowing with it.

So--if we are talking Super H vs M, there might not be as much difference as one might think.

Try it and see.

And--maybe 34mottie can stop to think before he opens his "pie hole."

In sandy soil if tractor is in good shape it will but not in clay or gumbo.

A good running SH will if you have enough weight for tractor. The traction will be your limiting factor. Even on an M. Had a good running SM that pulls 70 horse on the dyno that wouldn't pull a three bottom this fall. Kept spinning out. Guy with an F-20 on steel pulled it for me all day long to get it scoured.

Ok, I have watched this for too long to keep silent.
Yes, you should be able to pull it. It is fricken sand! I pulled mine with my H in black prairie soil doing my garden and it worked fine. I was in 1st gear bc of the small space, but it worked.
No, this is not the best setup to super farm with. If this is your main occupation and main source of income, get a new setup. If you are only going to plow 5-10 acres a year it will work just fine. They have other gears besides 3rd and 4th! You could go in second and plow about .75 acres/hour.
Now, this fall I plowed two acres for the neighbor using my SMTA and number 8(?) 3-14 plow. This worked just fine especially when my 78 year old neighbor helped me set it up. We were plowing 7-8 inches deep in 3rd. When the frost moved in there were a few spots with a little wheel slip, but not too bad. A little left brake and it was just fine. The SMTA was in pulling mode with 13.6 Firestone Field & Roads and 4 sets of rear wheel weights. They probably helped quite a bit. It took me 2.5 hours, but the field was a big triangle so there was a lot of dead heading and I ran out of gas...
With all that said, my neighbor couldn't pull 3-14's with his SM. I thought he said it was loaded, but he may not have replaced the fluid in the one side when it went flat. That is why I discount his story some. I am positive he didn't have it set up very well and it was OLD hay ground. It would work, but he carried the front end from headland to headland.

The only way to know is try. That said the best way to need a new rear end is to pull it hard as the engine will muster. That is what the problem was with the 350 more heart not enough leggs.