Super A is very cold and cannot be towed.

marvin johnson · Dec 11, 2009

It has been in the single digits for the last three or four days here in Western Washington. No big deal for many of you but an issue for us who live with the rain and 35 to 40 degreess most of the winter.
Tried to turn the Super A over with 6 volts and 30 weight oil and it would not budge. Tried 12 volts and still would not budge. Tried to tow the the A into the shop and it would not move.
I have had a problem with water (rain) landing on the gear shift and flowing down the shaft into the transmission. (Found water in the transmission before and this is the only way i can think of it getting in there.) So now that it is cold I am thinking that the water has turned to ice and not allowing the gears to turn.
So now I have a bunch of rugs over the top of the A and a heater under neath it to try to thaw it out out enough to get it into the shop to warm it up.
Did the A and Super a come with a rubber boot over the ransmission shifter? Anyone else have problems like this?
Will be adding a lean to onto the shop later this winter to store the Super A and the H and a few other items out of the rain. Money and time.

old · Dec 11, 2009

Yep BTDT and had that problem on my Ford just yesterday. So did you try to turn it over with the clutch pedal down or did you do it with it up??? My ford would not turn over unless I had the clutch down and then it would start right up but stall if I let up on it. I ended up starting it and letting it run for 30 minutes or so and it got warm enough to be able to use the tractor. Later I will crack the drain plug and hopefully the water will drain out. Ya I plan to change the oil in the tranny but have to wait on some $$ to come in before I do

glennster · Dec 11, 2009

dont try an move it with ice in the trans. zip on down to the auto parts store and get a dipstick oil heater and get it in there to help thaw it out.

Denny ('60 Lo-Boy) · Dec 11, 2009

Besides the possibility of water running down the gearshift, tractors are notorious for water forming in the transmission and final drives through condensation. I"d say your climate would be worse than other areas. This happens even in tractors that never sit outside.

gene bender · Dec 11, 2009

With the tranny and finals being without a vent where does the condensation come from. Humidity is high here in Iowa but i dont have any problems on any of my several tractors. Must be another tale never had any problems on the M and it started and ran several times a wk.

Brownie 450 · Dec 11, 2009

If the SA is like our A, you should remove the sheet metal covers at the bottom of each final drive. They are held on by either 4 or 6 bolts. There will probably be ice in both of them that is locking the final drive gears. This is in addition to the tranny ice.

armand tatro · Dec 11, 2009

Could the brakes be froze? Armand

Haas · Dec 11, 2009

There is plenty of transmission vent on all the letter series tractors. The gear shift levers are not sealed off for one. I'm not sure if the A final drives have a way to vent or not. However, if there is a seed plate drive on them, then they can vent through that. If you run your M several times a week and actually use it, you will likely never have a condensation problem in the transmission, as it will get warm enough to drive out the moisture.

teddy52food · Dec 11, 2009

Sounds like the starter is locked up to the ring gear.

gene bender · Dec 12, 2009

Realy how much air would be forced around the spring loaded cap on the tranny. The only way for any air to get thru into final drive would be thru the seal behind the brake drum and axle. Now ifn ya let the tractor set outside and gaskets and seals are shot you will get water along with many other problems The bottom line is it you dont care enough about your tractor and let it sit outside in the elements you soon will have a pile of junk.

Jim in Ma. · Dec 12, 2009

I would put a tarp over the tractor and put heat to it. I had to do that on my 140 when water got into the final drives.

JFay · Dec 12, 2009

I have had the same problem on my 140 with water getting into the tranny housing and freezing. But I was always able to start the engine, I just couldn't get the tractor to move. Sounds like you have another problem as well if your engine won't turn over with your foot on the clutch.
Jamie

David G · Dec 12, 2009

I had a massy 44 transmission freeze up on me before I could get it moved. I put a magnetic heater on the transmission, and it warmed up enough to get moving. I would put one on the transmission for a couple of days, then check the drain plug for water, then move it to the engine oil pan for a few hours before starting.

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