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Will a Super H radiator work for a '44 H?

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Mike CA

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I wrote a big post, but apparently the word "s t u d"... or something else, was seen as inappropriate, and I lost the whole thing. So, I'm not going to rewrite it.

I might need to replace my radiator. Long story as to why. There is a decent one on a Super H. Want to know if it will work.

Will it?
 
Acording to this site one radiator fits both, so im saying 98% sure that it will most definitly fit
 
I'm pretty sure it will fit. But what about pressurization and thermostat? I have no idea if my tractor has either.

How can I tell?
 
Mike, your H has a water pump. It also has a spring in/under the radiator cap and a rubber "gasket" that the spring holds onto the neck of your radiator. That is what provides the pressure.
 
easiest way I have found to tell the difference between pressureized radiator and a non-pressureized it the non-pressureized has a cap with the same mounting as a fuel cap. The pressureized and non-pressureized used different grills too. The supper H would be pressureized so if yours is pressureized it would be the same.
 

Mike, hope I get this straight. There is a very slight difference in the grill of an early, non-pressurized radiator H, and the grill of a later, pressurized radiator H.

The later, pressurized radiator will fit the early H, no problem, BUT, the early, non pressurized radiator will NOT fit the later H unless you change the grill also or at least modify it slightly, and it has nothing to do with the Dzus fasteners used on the early radiators.

The difference is the location of the radiator over-flow tube. The early style has that tube mounted up high, which requires a notch cut out of the filler neck opening in the grill. The later style radiator does not need that notch, so the filler neck opening on the later Hs and super Hs does not have it.

To make a long story short, the radiator from that super H will work just fine on YOUR H.
 
It will work , but then you will have the "wrong" cap on there for a 44. The CP won't like that. All that work for a distillate manifold GTH. I have an H radiator on my SH and it works just fine.

So tell us the AAACK moment and the radiator "mount bolts". Won't use the proper term.
I'll bet your radiator is salvageable.

Gordo
 
Pressure type radiators started being used on H tractors in 1943. Last type radiator sold by IH to replace one on a 44 H and SH was the same part number.
 
stud stud stud

well, that ain't the problem Mike...

I'm guessing you twisted off one or both of the studs in the bottom of the radiator.

The Super H radiator won't care if it's running pressurized or non-pressurized. Just use the 44's cap.

But man, we gotta find you an old mechanic in your area to teach you the ropes about looking before you leap, and when NOT to apply more pressure to the wrench.
 
So tell us the AAACK moment and the radiator "mount bolts". Won't use the proper term.
I'll bet your radiator is salvageable.
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No ACK moment. I took my radiator along last night to find out how difficult it would be to correct the previous restorations very wrong mounting studs. (too long, too skinny, with too little thread on the shank). He said it might do more harm than good, and he would take it to a pro radiator shop.

Well, if I have to spend money (eventually), I thought spending it on a better radiator might be worth it.
 
Good news! An ACK moment and a ruined part is a lot worse than finding someone else's sins.

Must be they welded the STUDs in somehow?
 
Must be they welded the STUDs in somehow?
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Yes, forgot to mention that.

The right stud is a thinner size, longer, with a much larger shank, and the threads are all towards the bottom. The left stud is correct size, but longer than original. It's usable, but the right one mucks up the whole deal.

Another possibility I've considered is to cut the right one and cut threads into it much farther up the shank. It's not seen at all, but it affects the way my grill mounts to the tractor.
 
Mike,

Just FYI in case the previous owner(s) screwed up more than just the studs themselves, here's how the radiator mounts to my Super H:

There should be a round rubber pad on each stud, between the radiator and front bolster.

There should also be a spring on each stud between the underside of the bolster and the washer and nut that holds it on. They will be "too long" without the spring.
 
Yup, got all that. The current length prevents getting it tightened down to hunker down that radiator. So the grill sits too high and throws off the hood. Looks bad.
 
(quoted from post at 23:23:10 12/06/09) So the grill sits too high and throws off the hood. Looks bad.
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Yabut, Mike,

When you get the radiator, grill, and hood straightened out, you will be back to the ill-fitting voltage regulator problem.

Are you having fun yet?
 
CNKS thanks for correcting me on the year. Should have looked it up, was thinking about a M tractor on the 43.
 
I recently had the same issue with the studs in the bottom of my SH radiator. One had been swisted off and I twisted the other. After pricing new radiators I tried and succeeded in drilling out the old studs and intalling new. Actually was easy.
 
I mix the serials of the H and M up all the time. Can't rely on my memory as I have lost most of it.
 
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