Will this work

chad from michigan · Nov 28, 2009

Ok guys I have been thinking about this for a long time and I finaly found one on ebay close enough to me.
I found a Case 444 Hytill rototiller. It is hydraulic driven. I have a fast hitch on my Cub and My Farmall 100. I was wondering if the hydraulics on either one of these tractors most likely the 100 if I put on the remote hyd would it be enough to turn the tiller? Since the pump runs off the engine I would not be rellying on a pto and speed reducer. Other thoughts might be some sort of gear ratio changer to change the speed.
Anythoughts? Or would I be asking for problems?
I think this would be neat if I could do it. Might only cost me a few hundred over a $1000 for a rotovator. Plus $700 for a speed reducer and possibly a pto reverser.
any thoughts suggestions. I can not find the gpm requirements for the rototiller.
I think the Cub is 5 or 6 gpm? what about the 100?

CNKS · Nov 28, 2009

Even if the hydraulics work, 1st gear in the Cub and 100 are too fast for a rototiller unless you are going very shallow.

gene bender · Nov 28, 2009

The 100 should have close to 10gal but the problem is ground speed. You need the reduction gear for the C ub that Howard nade they are very hard to find. The shop that converted the Bs in Wi for the Gensing crops had a reduction gear in the tourqe tube real neat set-up but i cant find out where they got the gear-box. The shift lever was back by the tranny and the linkage went to one of the threaded holes on the left side below the gas tank they just used one of the threaded holes. I do have some pics of the linkage but didnt look in the tube to see the gear=box. Sure would be neat to have one.

chad from michigan · Nov 28, 2009

well you could just idle the tractor and the live hydraulics would still turn the ground.
It would be on worked up ground basicly taking out weeds between rows

CNKS · Nov 28, 2009

The hydraulic power of the touch control system would be negligible without much RPM and the load that the rototiller would cause. Having done a LOT of cultivation 50-60 years ago and occasionally after that I don't see any advantage to a rototiller for cultivation. Maybe a walk behind in a small garden, but not on a tractor. A culivator set up right, and run at the proper speed and closeness to the plants will work well with sweeps that will uproot larger weeds and cover smaller ones.

TractormanNC · Nov 28, 2009

Sorry to burst your bubble. A 100 is a great tractor for many things but rototilling is not one of them. As others have said, ground speed is too fast. Hydraulic capacity is very limited, approx 6-8 quart reservoir and about 4.5 gpm at rated speed. If you just idle it down to try to get a slow enough speed, guess what, the hydraulic output slows down too. Rated pressure was nly about 1200 psi on a good day, a 50+ year old (if it has never been changed) will be lucky to make that.

Wardner · Nov 28, 2009

Here are three separate ways to slow down a Cultivision tractor. Each one does it differently. The parts are unavailable or very expensive.

mkirsch · Nov 28, 2009

(quoted from post at 08:26:21 11/28/09) well you could just idle the tractor and the live hydraulics would still turn the ground.
It would be on worked up ground basicly taking out weeds between rows

Nope, you need RPMs to generate enough pressure to turn the rototiller. Otherwise the tiller will just stall, even in loose sandy soil.

If you rev the tractor up, it will simply go too fast to do a good job. I suppose you can ride the brakes and slip the clutch, but that's hard on you and the tractor.

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