Farmall Red colors

How many Farmall or International red colors are there? The Vansickle International Red looked like it had a little maroon in it. Is there a farmall red that is more like fire engine red?

That Van Sickle might dry to the kind of red you want.

Paint is funny stuff.

You mention maroon. PPGs formulas for IH 2150 are mostly violet and, from there and depending on the base, made red by the addition of one of several oranges, some black and, in some bases, a kiss of white. I went through a whole exercise with the PPG when I underestimated the amount of paint I needed and went back for more. They used the same base and formula for pigments as the first batch but it was WAY off. In the end I had them scan some parts that I had already painted and the formula they came up with was only mildly related to the first batch. (It was a high volume supplier, and I still think they put a wrong can of pigment in their computerized wall of stired pigments. . .) It'll be interesting, if I live long enough, to see how the two formulas fade.

Two more points to illustrate --

First, the original batch was only violet, another orange and black. The scanned formula for pigments to make two quarts in the base I used was 817.7 parts Red, 794.3 parts Organic Orange, 658.8 parts Violet, 18.2 parts Black and 10.6 parts White. That's not by way of giving you a formula, but more to illustrate that there were almost 220 units of pigment in the mix, and they were measuring it down to the tenth. Measuring it within a whole ten would have been impressive, but pigments are that strong and it makes a difference.

Second point -- My '47 BN was built in the period when IH's paint supplier was hit by a labor strike, and they were stretching their red by cutting a little yellow into it. My uncle remembers well the day they brought the "little red tractor" to the farm. I knew that tractor when it wasn't all that old and the still tight original paint on it faded through an almost Allis Chalmers orange and eventually down to a brown instead of the usual rosy pink.

There have been several variations on the color. The two most common were IH50 (redder) and later IH 2150 (still red, but with a bit more of an orange cast to the eye).

IH red paints were IH 50, IH 1102B, IH 201, and IH 2150, plus another on the later tractors. IH 50 and IH 2150 (only one sold by Case IH) can be mixed, not sure of 1102B and 201. The color of Van Sickle or any premixed farm store paint is anyone's guess. There was never a "fire engine red". You can get any shade you want by beginning with the 2150 from any major manufacturer such as the 71310 from PPG or 96766 from Dupont and have your dealer change the toners until you get what you want.

Thanks, I'll take a look at those colors.

Wow, thanks. You really know your paint!

R

I used to hate the darker red Farmalls, but now I kind of like them.

I just shot my H in Tisco IH-110 and it looks REALLY bright. It's like Viper red.

I used the PPG Omni 71310 on this Troy Bilt tiller. Hal

That VS will be pink in a couple of years, unless you keep it in a shed.

That is one of the things I'm trying to protect against.

That is very cool. That's what I want.

That tractor probably looks better now than when new. You sure did a nice job. I would keep that tractor for show only. Hal

Did you clearcoat that too? It is sharp.

Thanks guys. No I didn't clearcoat it. I had it all tore apart for a transmission rebuild, and the "plan" was to throw a "quick spray paint job" on it to make it look a little more presentable sitting behind the barn. Then one thing lead to another. Well I'm gonna sand blast this stuff...well hey I think I'll put some body filler in these pits..well guess I might as well spray it in a booth..and before I knew it I was doing an all out nuts & bolts resto. It's so nice now, I don't want to chance scratching it up, so I'm gonna keep it parked in the barn and just use it to mow on nice days. Just went and bought a '46 M to do the usual work around the farm.

Here's a before picture. :lol:




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My simple answer to this debate that has never ended is go to your caseih dealer and buy a can of 2150 red and see how you like it. It"s a little darker than the tisco and makes it look sharp. I painted one with tisco paint and although it looks good, when you put it next to 2 tractors painted with 2150 it looks off.I like the shade of 2150 the best, it not to orange and it"s not too maroon.

(quoted from post at 08:46:17 10/25/09) My simple answer to this debate that has never ended is go to your caseih dealer and buy a can of 2150 red and see how you like it. It"s a little darker than the tisco and makes it look sharp. I painted one with tisco paint and although it looks good, when you put it next to 2 tractors painted with 2150 it looks off.I like the shade of 2150 the best, it not to orange and it"s not too maroon.

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I think I'm going to try that on my M when it comes time to redo that one. I like my H in Tisco paint, it looks good, I just think it's a bit too bright for a Farmall.

When that paint hardens you should use this spray wax made by Final Detail on your tractor. Its the easiest wax I've ever found. Use old bath towels to wipe off the spray. It will last a long time too. I can do a mid-size car in less than an hour. Hal

I would be willing to bet that on letter series if you pulled one tractor a month at random out of a years production and compared them you would see difference in color. I worked in eightys and nintys in a dyeing operation and with latest computer color control it was still constant fight to keep colors uniform.