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tackhammertime

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Here is something that came up when talking with some other tractor guys. I have my rain cap open to the back or hinge in front, some say open to the front or hinge in back. Which way does your rain cap point and why.
 
I would side with you and I>H Parking.. for the reason mentioned, so it doesn't snag on branches. If I had a tractor that was not used except for show I think I would put it on the other was as I think it looks better that way.
 
Had the same discusion on a tractor ride recently. I have four restored IH tractors and they are all diferent. The ones that open to the front smoke therefor it deflects fumes comming from the exhaust.
 
Well, from watching the new ones go through my Gramp's dealership, the earlier ones with the high, rounded counterweight were mounted to open front, counterweight to rear- the later, low diamond-shaped counterwieghts were mounted the other way, open to the back, counterweight in front
JMHO, but I've always thought that both looked the best mounted their original way- but that open front is a limb-catcher on a working tractor
 
Stainless steel measuring cup to fit outlet. Bend the handle down pipe, and put a light bungie to the hood opening.
 
For the fifth go around on the subject, right now hinge to the front with paint bucket over the top. My pipe is high enough I don't get exhaust in the face.

I suppose it depends upon how high the pipe is and whether a 3 inch cap is needed to deflect the exhaust or not or if you have a cab.

Jim has the right idea as long the bungee cord isn't long enough to where you get popped in the face when you forget to remove it before you start it.

Do they make a rain cap with a collar around the flip top cap to seal off blowing rain?

I hope I still have my 2606 backhoe for a while. Had a hispanic person of questionable english and citizenship pull in the drive way on Sat. and asked if it was for sale. Told him no. Now I have to worry that he will be back and I'll find it missing and sitting somewhere in Texas or Mexico. I may have to disable it and maybe park it where I can dig the hoe bucket in to bury itself so no one can pull it out.
 
If you want my opinion, throw it in the scrap bin. I was on a tractor drive last fall and all i could here was that darn cap ratling and the first stop i came to it came off and it was so much nicer just here the engine with out the ratl of the cap. I put a curv pipe on it now and it cant catch branches.
 
Fifth go-around? I've never seen this subject discussed here before?!

To each his own, but IMHO an old Farmall is not complete without a proper POINTED-counterweight rain cap on top of the muffler. Those dumb round counterweight rain caps belong on Massey Fergusons and Allis Chalmerses. Baloney cut stacks belong on John Deeres and Cases.

As for where the counterweight points... To the side that's closest to the edge of the hood. If the stack comes out the left side of the hood, point the counterweight left. If the stack comes out the right side, point the counterweight right.

Forward catches on everything.

Backward looks retarded and deflects all the exhaust straight in your face.

BTW I like the rattle. If you don't have that tap-tap-tap of the rain cap while the tractor is idling, it just doesn't sound right to me.
 
my exhaust worked it's way loose a while back so I drove around with the rain cap slowing rotating all directions before I tightened it back up. strangest thing was the tractor ran the same no matter which way it pointed :)
 
Point any way that suits you but if tractor is left out in rain and you want to keep water out you better put 5 gallon plastic bucket over the whole thing.
 
Forward is the way I was taught although they do catch on stuff. Mine caught on a bitty branch while mowing this year and it ripped it right off the pipe. Landed right on my shoulder and burned me but good. My only tractor related injury in 20+ years of operating. Hope it stays that way!
 
Put the rain cap on pointed in any direction that suits you. If you decide later that you don't like it that way, just hold the rain cap where it is, and rotate the tractor under it until it is correct.

Actually, the CORRECT position for that rain cap is with the top side facing up!
 
Unless you use a soup can, in which case it works much more effectively and more apt to stay where you put it with the bottom side up.
 
Um, yes, one can keep rain out in a much more dignified manner if one remembers to remove the, er, um, rain cap before firing up. I keep reminding myself...
 
Mine WAS pointed forward. It caught a branch and pulled the hot muffler off the pipe. It hit my hand on the steering wheel and I thought I was lucky to not have broken my finger. Points backward now.
Steve
 
(quoted from post at 12:32:46 10/16/09) Unless you use a soup can, in which case it works much more effectively and more apt to stay where you put it with the bottom side up.
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Yes, the home-made version of a rain cap should always be installed up-side down. Kinda hard to keep it on there any other way.
 
I personally think they look better opening to the front, but they probably should be the other way around if you are going to be around tree branches. I always put them on opening towards the front.
 
And the internet never lets him forget it. :lol:

Anybody ever have a contest to see how high you could get the can to go?

I tend to leave the limb catcher opening to the front, but usually rotate it a bit off to the side when on the road. It's just loose enough to turn it or take it off for short stretches. Got a curved straight pipe to swap in for working under the trees.

The can thing works good but not if I take off on a jaunt to the store for something and forget to put it on. :roll: If the wind blows right a curved pipe will funnel in rain like no tomorrow. Sometimes ya just can't win it seems.

By the way, there is a lot of difference in flappers. They don't all behave the same. The heavy ones close nice, but take a lot of flow to open up and that causes exhaust to ride low and blow back in your face.
 
Although I have one on my "M" Farmall. they are usless. When the wind blows in a storm the cap lifts up and lets rain in. Haven't figured out why I don't just can it (PUN intended) Henry
 
Nuthin' there a five gallon pail (upside down) and a two-liter pop bottle full of water strung to the bail with balin' twine wouldn't fix. And it'll cut down on the water runnin' down the pipe and into the threads on the manifold.
 
The only conclusion I have come to abut rain caps is, if you see one on an MD the owner is quite possibly of questionable character. Anybody who owns one with a vertacle mounted distributor knows you can't leave it out in the rain or the distributor will literally fill up with water. At RPRU in 2008 I found mine with the points under water. Mine is still on, just too lazy to take it off, another character flaw of mine!
 
I like height! I'm fieldin' about .650 overall for catchin' it, .900 or better on the near side, but much more poorly if it blows to the off side.
 
On the H it points south on the A it points north of course if I drive them in the shed the opposite directions then A points south and the H points north. I have one on each tractor dont know why they are always in the shed.
 
well fellers I use a maxwellhouse cofee can. I figur it wakes me up for work in tha mornin so ittl wake the ol A up to. Long as iv used the cofee can she has always been esy startn.
 

Muffler on 5610 is loose so it can be turned! When I back into the barn cellar it's hinged to the rear so it won't catch on the overhead beams! Then when I drive out I turn it (muffler) 180* so it (raincap) won't catch on the overhead beams! 3910, on the other hand, has one of them cute sweeps with a vertical opening so no raincap needed!
 
I always have done the caps to opening to the back, got in the habit because of hauling a turboed tractor.. carried onwith all the rest. Will USUALLY not hang up in a tree limb, although the hinge has been known to occasionally get hung.
 
Guys, I like mine to open to the back,2 fold reason......
1. To get through and under low hanging limbs and branches.
2. Old habit from when I started farming in the Panhandle of Okla. Our Tractor row faced North so in the winter time when the prevailing N. winds blew the rain cap would stay shut, Not blow open in high wind. Yes in the Spring and fall the SW wind would blow them open some times. Sometimes the wind would blow them open every minutes. In that time of the year they not usually in their parking spot and you can't be right all the time, just part of it!
Later,
John A.
 
Hinge in the back because I don't enjoy breathing exhaust fumes while I'm working.

Snagging the cap on a low-hanging branch can still happen with the hinge pointed towards the front. With an exhaust on top, you're better off being extremely careful driving under low clearance areas regardless of raincap orientation.
 
I put mine on with the hinge towards the front. Not only does it help prevent damage due to a low hanging branch but when I trailer the tractor with the front facing forward, I usually don't have to worry about the cap opening and creating an air flow issue that will wind the turbo w/o lubrication. No when trailing long distances, I cover the pipe to be sure....but not on short hauls.
 
Mine is under the shed MOST of the time. I still have a raincap on mine and it opens to the rear for the obvious limb hanging issue. Also it is like this so when hauling it stays shut. I haul it a couple times a year 60 miles one-way to help Dad bale hay. I hammer the Interstate at about 65 mph and it stays shut. Sometimes it gets left out (broke down, stuck, ect) so I guess it protects it then. My "flapper" came from TSC and it has a rolled edge to keep water from leaking into the pipe.

My flapper used to tap-tap-tap-tap at idle too... I have had an injector failing for years and finally it quit. After having them all tested and had the new one rebuilt to spec mind holds steady at idle, no tap-tap. All injectors are now 900-1000 psi crack pressure (spec is 950-1050 psi new).

CT
 
I keep my rain caps in the barn on a shelf. I use soup cans, they fit nice and snug and fit in the tool box till I am done with the tractor. I can't stand listening to a rain cap rattle all day.
 
I have my cap open to the front. looks cooler going down the road. We ran all ours that way. Snagging branches was a rare occurence, and I use my super m to drag wood out of the woods. Usually it's a bigger branch in the body that took them out on us.
 
(quoted from post at 23:55:35 10/16/09) Hinge in the back because I don't enjoy breathing exhaust fumes while I'm working.

Snagging the cap on a low-hanging branch can still happen with the hinge pointed towards the front. With an exhaust on top, you're better off being extremely careful driving under low clearance areas regardless of raincap orientation.
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Whenever you're moving foward, the exhaust fumes are going to be noticed regardless of which way it is pointed.

Mine is hinged towards the front, and opens towards the back. That's just how it's always been, so that's how I like it.
 
(quoted from post at 08:50:32 10/18/09) I like mine to open to the side. C'mon, am I really the only one?!
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Nope. I tilt it off to the right about 45° on the diesel (who is right handed anyways). With the muffler not being clamped tight it sometimes finds it 's own way, but usually stays there. It's enough to blow out to the side even at road speed. Also being a diesel, it don't flap anyways. The Super C has one, but the 450 doesn't nor the 44 or VAC. (Usually one that flaps has a cylinder spitting.)

Neat picture Scott! We used to get the best pop offs from an old hand cranked JD B. 20 to 30 feet. (I think the can fit it the best.) It was fun to watch. :lol:
 
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