Super A hydrolic leak

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Hey guys! A couple weeks ago I posted a question about having a front seal leaking on my Super A. Hugh gave me an excellent reply to my post. Fortunately,I have have been busy getting in the last of out silage and had no time to work on the A. Because,yesterday as I started to look at the tractor,it suddenly hit me!! The reason the oil is coming out of the front seal is...it's coming from the hydralic system! I had no lift on the blade,but opened up the top oil petcock,and drained almost 3 quarts out! So Hugh,or others,the hydralic must be getting in near the pump right?? Is there is seal or gasget there that is shot?? Sounds A WHOLE lot easier than a front seal! Thanks!!
 
JD: There are a number of folks on here have repaired that leak. It leaks around the pump shaft then into timing gears and onto the crankcase. Shaft get worn, and it takes what they call a speedy sleeve. CNKS. Pete & R Pete are a couple I can think of. I've never had to do it, knock on wood.
 
The front engine seal and the one on your pump are not related. You need to replace the pump seal, and the engine seal too. I suppose a higher oil level would cause a bigger leak, but if the oil is an external leak, it will continue leaking after the pump is fixed. Take the pump off and look at it, the repair is pretty much self-explanatory. If the seal is an oring, you will need to have the shaft hole enlarged to accept the speedi sleeve.
 
Here's a pic of the internals. The black arrow points to the shaft that extends out the front of the pump, where the keyed-gear to it's right goes. I have everything laid out, but I knew from where they came, as it's important to have everything go back in in the same place and position and direction as where it came out.

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The white arrow labeled '2' points to where my O-ring sat in the bore, and the white arrow labeled '1' points to where the shaft may have a groove worn into it from the O-ring. If that shaft requires a speedi-sleeve, then the body may need machining, as the speedi-sleeve will decrease the clearance for the O-ring, as CNKS said.

All that said, some newer pumps had the O-ring replaced by a seal. I wonder if in the case of a seal, it could be relocated slightly, to both avoid that groove and re-machining. Somebody else may know.

But there were apparently several refinements over the years, and I believe a couple of different manufacturers. My kit was VERY specific for the type of pump to which it applied. The long pump number was stamped on the side of my pump, but it was both small, and shallow, and I couldn't see it until I went scraping at the paint. Moreover, the repair kit wasn't well identified on the outside, and it wasn't until the parts-guy opened and looked at the pump-numbers to which that kit applied, on the paperwork on the inside, that we were sure we had the right match. Maybe we were both being more careful than we needed, but be fore-warned.

One last thing- there are four bolts that hold the pump, but only two of them extend beyond the pump and into the block. The other two are shorter, and only serve to hold the two parts of the pump body together. If you pull them all, be careful the two halves of the pump body don't come apart before you're ready, and things fall out of the internals before you see how they're oriented.
 

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