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flopguns 10-13-2009 07:55:04 165.166.213.234 732873 Report to Moderator	help !!! why is it that every time i buy a cub it will crank good with the clutch out but when i try to crank it with the clutch in it wants to drag ??? put different starter on them, new battery, help thanks keith [Reply]   [Send Email]
rterry 10-14-2009 16:39:47 75.40.202.175 733091 Report to Moderator	Re: cranking a cub help !!! in reply to flopguns, 10-13-2009 07:55:04   try to adjust your clutch out just alittle like 1/8 of inch   [Reply]   [Send Email]
mkirsch 10-13-2009 14:27:16 64.80.108.57 732926 Report to Moderator	Re: cranking a cub help !!! in reply to flopguns, 10-13-2009 07:55:04   Cubs should ALWAYS be started with the gear shift in NEUTRAL and your foot OFF the clutch pedal. Cubs have a graphite throwout BUSHING, not a bearing. The clutch fingers are grinding on a flat surface, not spinning a bearing like normal tractors. This adds a lot of drag, and if your electrical system is 6V and not up to snuff, it can slow the starter down signifigantly.   [Reply]   [No Email]
Kajun 10-13-2009 13:33:31 206.251.164.114 732919 Report to Moderator	Re: cranking a cub help !!! in reply to flopguns, 10-13-2009 07:55:04   I read it the same way as Curt Cooke and rhouston. A mechanic and/or engineer I am not ; a 20 year working Cub owner I am. Engaging the clutch while cranking --- doing what one would do to put a running tractor in gear --- will slow the starter by 20-30 percent. So Curt's explanation , I believe ,is right on.   [Reply]   [Send Email]
Curt Cooke 10-13-2009 13:01:21 64.186.50.66 732916 Report to Moderator	Re: cranking a cub help !!! in reply to flopguns, 10-13-2009 07:55:04   Flop, I suspect that the problem is that a Cub does not use a conventional throw out "bearing". In most cases the throw out bearing isn"t a bearing at all, it"s a solid piece of graphite. With the clutch depressed that graphite is pressed solidly against the fingers of the pressure plate and the friction is sufficient to make it more difficult to turn that engine over. Similarly, a cub will lose engine speed when the clutch is depressed - due to that little bit of friction.   [Reply]   [Send Email]
Janicholson 10-13-2009 10:56:07 199.17.6.222 732897 Report to Moderator	Re: cranking a cub help !!! in reply to flopguns, 10-13-2009 07:55:04   ScottyHOMEy is right. Putting new 80-90 oil in the trans will help some. Putting 0gauge battery cables on it will help, and pushing the clutch down (disengaging it) removes both mass and viscous friction from the starting load on the starter. JimN   [Reply]   [No Email]
ScottyHOMEy 10-13-2009 09:08:35 71.241.200.196 732884 Report to Moderator	Re: cranking a cub help !!! in reply to flopguns, 10-13-2009 07:55:04   Stiff, dirty oil in the tranny? Worse yet, water and shot bearings?   [Reply]   [No Email]
rhouston 10-13-2009 13:23:01 24.97.211.2 732918 Report to Moderator	Re: cranking a cub help !!! in reply to ScottyHOMEy, 10-13-2009 09:08:35   maybe there is a teminology mismatch here but I read his question as it cranks better with his foot off the clutch pedal than it does with the pedal depressed. Curt seems to have read it the same way I did.   [Reply]   [No Email]
flopguns 10-14-2009 08:13:57 165.166.213.234 733032 Report to Moderator	Re: cranking a cub help !!! in reply to rhouston, 10-13-2009 13:23:01   thanks for the help. will try new battery cables next flopguns   [Reply]   [No Email]