Demo Cub 99619

I have a 1950 Cub #99619 and am interested in selling it. I need the money to finish my shop [got bigger]. I live in up state Pa near Elimra NY. I know there is interest in these machines I hate the idea but I need the shop space. I will get pic's I can say the sheet metal is very good and the tractor runs it has a little backyard work done to it over the years but nothing to hurt it. Let me know what kind of interest there is. I don't have a clue what its worth I've heard some numbers but who knows.

Oh Man - A DEMO CUB!

I would say you could easily pull $5-6k from the right guy in its present state. If you took your time and found your buyer...the sky is the limit.
Id suggest you haul it over to the frothing wolves on farmallcub.com - they will be sure and give you a righteous welcome "cub-buddy"...of course that is after they tell you its worth much less.

i agreee with the 5-6, Bring it to a couple tractor shows youll find someone, when they try to lowball you say i need to get X amount for it

The truth is Alex that unless the the tractor was in exceptional condition and verifiable as an actual demo cub there is no way it would be worth anywhere near those figures. Even if it met those conditions it would be hard pressed to be anywhere near that.
Many verified, documented demo cubs fully restored would be doing good to bring $3500 - $4000 for a bare tractor. Unless you can find a buyer who knows nothing about them.

i guess it really depends on who buys it and where, up here in CT that would be very resonable becuase we dont have a vast quantity of tractors, Most farmall cubs that are restored (maybe even not restored) are listed for anywhere between 2500-3500, It just depends on the market, So i think my price guesstimate sould be ball park for around here, but will most likely be incorrect where you are

BD: Thats interesting as didn"t a "refinished" Demo just go through EBay last year and fetch $7500?? Granted it had a Disc Plow attached so lets give him $300 for that...well then it would have been over $7k with fresh paint and some imperfections that were clearly visible in the photos.
The problem with "I think its worth" is just that - its SUBJECTIVE. Sure, if your selling to the same little crowd on a website and wish to "stay cub-buddy"s" your going to throw them a deal and not get a premium..however if you take it out into the OPEN MARKET...its fair game to seek a premium. As an example..the last 4 Cubs I have sold all cleared $6k - of course I am not prowling the forums trying to figure out how to JB Weld a block or glue a final on either. Quality pieces - sell for quality prices.
This gentleman"s ORIGINAL Demo (giving him the benefit that it is still showing white paint everywhere) is a rare piece...I have two clients on a waiting list looking for exactly such an animal - and $6-8k is not out of the question for either of them. The micro-world of farmallcub.com does not constitute the current market or prices of Cub tractors...sorry to burst your bubble.
<awaiting your witty comeback..as I am certain you or one of your pals will have to make a remark>

So it brought $7500.... Did the guy actually PAY?

So it's listed for $2500-$3500.... Did it actually SELL?

Bare Cubs in good running condition regardless of age are verifiably selling in the $1500-$1800 range. That's all your 1950 is worth.

You might have a case to ask $5000-$6000 if the tractor has been completely rebuilt from top to bottom: All new seals, gaskets and bearings, rebuilt engine, new tires, and a STELLAR paint job. In all likelihood you'll spend that much getting the tractor to that stage.

Good luck actually getting it.

These guys telling you it's worth $5000-$6000 without even actually looking at it are just jerking you around trying to get you to embarrass yourself.

Your hard-luck story won't help sell the tractor, by the way.

What reason do I have to try to get him to embarrass himself, What personal acquirement or goal would that get me, And yes tractors do sell at those prices around here with usually a mower or snowplow on them, there should be no reason a true collector wouldn’t pay that much money for a cub “demonstrator” I see no reason for you to say that im jerking his chain when im actually not?

but anyways steve heres a demo cub for sale in mass

http://worcester.craigslist.org/grd/1362342131.html

A 2500$ cub in non restored condition

http://worcester.craigslist.org/grd/1362324306.html

3000$ cub

http://providence.craigslist.org/grd/1384224567.html

and look a 3500$ one with a mower

http://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/1383341888.html

The only person "embarrassing themselves" would be YOU - for trying to put a man down about his situation. Perhaps the "story" behind why he is selling is used a bit often..but honestly in these times its more than likely TRUE. If he wishes to share the reason why he wants to depart with such a rare tractor - let him, who are you to judge?

put it on ebay, run it thru an auction
OR get Alex to come off 5k for it as he claims it is worth 6-7k
do your own searching and looking only you know exactly what shape it is in and how great/bad the paint is
good luck with your sale
Ron

Pat CT and Blueclawz thank you for your input. The man I got the tractor from was offered5500.00 sight unseen over the phone. To clear up the hard luck repley from mkirsch I won't finance my hobby. I own a Harley-Davidson dealership and traded for the Cub. Around here plain Cubs sell fro 1500.00 to 3000.00 both at sales and one to one. This is an excellent place to get iformation and I thank all of you.

Steve:

I do not post a lot here, am more content to sit in the bushes.. however some threads just push the post button for me and this is one of them.

Valuating a Cub or any tractor/bike/vehicle/grandma's wedding dress is subjective at best and downright skewed at worst. Having a Harley dealership you already know this. The questin at hand really is what is a fair price to ask for a [i:73fdf77727][b:73fdf77727]"confirmed"[/b:73fdf77727][/i:73fdf77727] demonstrator. When dealing with this subject, one must realize that a demonstrator only has a premium affixed to it if interests a collector. If a person is not a collector of demonstrator's, well, it is just a 1950 Cub. This would apply to any of the applicable models in the Mid Century Program and not just Cubs.

For those standard 1950 Cubs ... the ballpark figure for one that is straight, mechanically sound, no cracks, welds or breaks nor missing parts.. $1,500.00 to $2,000.00 would be about right. For an unrestored demo you could add a 50% premium at the best and hope to get it. That would bring it to the $2,250.00 to $3,000.00 mark. That would be a good price in any location period.

I only know of a half dozen confirmed Demonstrators here in my neck of the northeast or maritime provinces. They are decidedly rare here. Oh and one acqaintance actually owns a pair of sequentially numbered Demo Cubs. However, on the whole, demonstrator Cubs are only worth on average about $3,500.00 Cdn fully restored and in top flight shape.

I am really sorry that that you choose to accept Alex's grand guestimate which is all it really is, over more accurate figures. Alex is seriously off the mark in the real world. However, Alex is correct in his pricing [b:73fdf77727]if[/b:73fdf77727] [i:73fdf77727]and only[/i:73fdf77727] [b:73fdf77727]if[/b:73fdf77727] one ascribes to P.T. Barnum's most oft quoted saying... :roll: :shock:

I would caution moderation in the price you decide to ask. A fair price would be to start in the $2,500.00 range and see what happens. You may end up having to drop your price, or if you are really lucky.. a bidding war will occur and poof :!: you could end up highly surprised.

Rudi.
So exactly what did you add to this post other than the same information I already stated (value is in the eye of the beholder)and a personal attack on ME? (Alex is PT Barnum)
This must be the whole "Cub Buddy" thing I mentioned...as EVERYONE of the negative, ignorant or attacking remarks were voiced by regulars (MKirsch, BigDog, Evilbowievel and Rudi)over on Farmallcub.com! See this is how they work - if you state something contrary to their little system of beliefs you are singled out and "made and example". The really funny thing is that PatCT pretty much agreed with my initial post as well as Steve the actual seller stating the former owner received and offer over $5k- and yet the focus of your follow-ups are entirely me and my "crazy determination of value" by the Cub-Klan.
You have all become a pathetic group of fools...who make bigger a**"s of yourselves in an attempt to put me down personally. Its people like you who drive the younger ones or the newcomers to find something else for a hobby with less a88holes to deal with.

Alex:

First I didn't call you PT Barnum.. at all. I said [u:4d31e8f90c][i:4d31e8f90c][b:4d31e8f90c]"if one ascribes to his philosophy"[/b:4d31e8f90c][/i:4d31e8f90c][/u:4d31e8f90c]. It's called readin english... you might try that sometime. Especially if you are going to put words into peoples mouths.

Second, we all have opinions and they all have value. The least valuable ones are the ones expressed with rancor and venom.

Now back to the main event. Yup.. value is indeed subjective. Value is that condition that marries the PO (present owner) with the PO (prospective owner) at an agreeable price to both of them. What one asks and what one will reasonably get is two completely different critters. What one asks also determines how many folks make an offer.

Rudi
As you can see I waited awhile and got even more good insight. I gave the Cub site a try and you are right. I said I wanted 4500.00 and the the people who were interested said thanks but no thanks. Agian this is the first time I got so many replies and I am gratful to all who took the time with my education.

Steve:

Well I am sorry that you were not able to get the price hoped for. At the best of times a very straight Cub in good mechanical condition, nothing missing/cracked/bent or broke can bring a fair price in the afore mentioned $1,500.00 to $2,000.00 range. However, in today's economy fetching that kind of price is still dicey at best. Folks are hanging on to discretionary funds.. so it really is a buyers market and kinda soft on sellers.

I do hope you get a fair price for it. Pictures would be helpful -- lots of detail. That is what will help sell a particular Cub to a prospective buyer. Any help needed just holler.. we will be around -- both places

Got pictures?

CT