ATF adding to diesel fuel ?????

I was in TSC this afternoon getting ready to buy some diesel fuel conditioner when someone saw me pick a bottle off the shelf and out of the blue he told me that automatic transmission fluid worked better that anything else in a diesel and also said it would give you more power by putting one qt. to every 5 gal. Has anyone else ever heard of this and does it work to put ATF in your diesel tank?

for the life of me i have never figer out why a person would take the chance of screwing up there injuction system with ATF i bet that no where on the bottle of atf well you find this is is diesel fuel condition. next time some one say ues somthing other then diesel fuel condition have then sign a paper saying they well replace you injuction sysem if the atf screws it up. i know whole bunch people well say its ok but i bet not one well sign a paper saying thy well replace you system if it screw it up. i did a complet system replacement on a ih 7110 after the guy who worked there filled the filters with atf and then started it run for 30 mintes before total failure i ask why he did that he said a friend told him it clean the system well it did new injuctor new pump. of coures when i ask the guy if he and his friend wanted the bill for the repair guess who paid the owned of the tractor.

I have heard of truck drivers using or keeping ATF in the truck. It may be for the added top end lubrication. I cannot see CLEAN ATF harming a diesel injection system. Now that I think about it, we were talking about OFF ROAD DIESEL and truckers used to run it and if checked, said it was ATF. Now I believe the DOTD will tear you a new one if you even have ATF in the cab, additive or not. I am intreseted in the post to follow.

CT

ya, keep that s... where it belongs, in the trans. thats where its supposed to be. it has friction additives and you dont want that in your injection system. if anything you could use snake oil or mystery oil in your diesel.

Yep and if you look at a can of MMO you will see it says things about adding it to diesel systems and MMO or not much more then good smelling ATF

A friend of mine was an Allis Chalmers dealer for over forty years..he says there is nothing wrong with ATF in the fuel system, it has an affinity for moisture and will remove any in the system, it will lube the injector pump and add kinetic energy to the fuel. That was the first thing he told me to do with one of our diesels. There is absolutely nothing in ATF that would do damage to pump, injectors or any part of the fuel system, it is a petroleum product, no different than Hytrans or other fluids that are more highly refined, it is after all an oil based product being ignited and burned and until that point it is a lubricating agent.

I agree with Ben,why play chemist,especialy on hearsay advice. Look over on Dieselsite form,they sponsered a study that addressed additivies in diesel. Main thing I learned was that most are a waste and that bio diesel at 2% was better than any for lubrication.

ATF had been tested and doesn't do much of anything. Two-sroke oil works the best, for a cheap lube addtitive. Buy it by the gallon at Walmart and it's the cheapest good-lube additive.

Here are some test results. Disregard any posted prices since it's a few years old.

These results are listed in the order of performance in the HFRR test. The baseline fuel
used in every test started at an HFRR score of 636. The score shown is the tested HFRR
score of the baseline fuel/additive blend.
Also included is the wear scar improvement provided by the additive as well as other
claimed benefits of the additive. Each additive is also categorized as a Multi-purpose
additive, Multi-purpose + anti-gel, Lubricity only, non-conventional, or as an additive
capable of treating both gasoline and diesel fuel.
As a convenience to the reader there is also information on price per treated tank of diesel
fuel (using a 26 gallon tank), and dosage per 26 gallon tank provided as “ounces of
additive per 26 gallon tank”.

In Order Of Performance:

1) 2% REG SoyPower biodiesel
HFRR 221, 415 micron improvement.
50:1 ratio of baseline fuel to 100% biodiesel
66.56 oz. of 100% biodiesel per 26 gallons of diesel fuel
Price: market value

2)Opti-Lube XPD
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
cetane improver, demulsifier
HFRR 317, 319 micron improvement.
256:1 ratio
13 oz/tank
$4.35/tank

3)FPPF RV, Bus, SUV Diesel/Gas fuel treatment
Gas and Diesel
cetane improver, emulsifier
HFRR 439, 197 micron improvement
640:1 ratio
5.2 oz/tank
$2.60/tank

4)Opti-Lube Summer Blend
Multi-purpose
demulsifier
HFRR 447, 189 micron improvement
3000:1 ratio
1.11 oz/tank
$0.68/tank

5)Opti-Lube Winter Blend
Muti-purpose + anti-gel
cetane improver
HFRR 461, 175 micron improvement
512:1 ratio
6.5 oz/tank
$3.65/tank

6)Schaeffer Diesel Treat 2000
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
cetane improver, emulsifier, bio-diesel compatible
HFRR 470, 166 micron improvement
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$1.87/tank

7)Super Tech Outboard 2-cycle TC-W3 engine oil
Unconventional (Not ULSD compliant, may damage 2007 or newer systems)
HFRR 474, 162 micron improvement
200:1 ratio
16.64 oz/tank
$1.09/tank

8)Stanadyne Lubricity Formula
Lubricity Only
demulsifier, 5% bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
HFRR 479, 157 micron improvement
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$1.00/tank

9)Amsoil Diesel Concentrate
Multi-purpose
demulsifier, bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
HFRR 488, 148 micron improvement
640:1 ratio
5.2 oz/tank
$2.16/tank

10)Power Service Diesel Kleen + Cetane Boost
Multi-purpose
Cetane improver, bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
HFRR 575, 61 micron improvement
400:1 ratio
8.32 oz/tank
$1.58/tank

11)Howe’s Meaner Power Kleaner
Multi-purpose
Alcohol free
HFRR 586, 50 micron improvement
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$1.36/tank

12)Stanadyne Performance Formula
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
cetane improver, demulsifier, 5% bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
HFRR 603, 33 micron improvement
480:1 ratio
6.9 oz/tank
$4.35/tank

13)Used Motor Oil, Shell Rotella T 15w40, 5,000 miles used.
Unconventional (Not ULSD compliant, may damage systems)
HFRR 634, 2 micron improvement
200:1 ratio
16.64 oz/tank
price: market value

14)Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant
Gas or diesel
HFRR 641, 5 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant change)
427:1 ratio
7.8 oz/tank
$2.65/tank

15)B1000 Diesel Fuel Conditioner by Milligan Biotech
Multi-purpose, canola oil based additive
HFRR 644, 8 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant change)
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$2.67/tank

16)FPPF Lubricity Plus Fuel Power
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
Emulsifier, alcohol free
HFRR 675, 39 microns worse than baseline fuel
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$1.12/tank

17)Marvel Mystery Oil
Gas, oil and Diesel fuel additive (NOT ULSD compliant, may damage 2007 and newer
systems)
HFRR 678, 42 microns worse than baseline fuel.
320:1 ratio
10.4 oz/tank
$3.22/tank

18)ValvTect Diesel Guard Heavy Duty/Marine Diesel Fuel Additive
Multi-purpose
Cetane improver, emulsifier, alcohol free
HFRR 696, 60 microns worse than baseline fuel
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$2.38/tank

19)Primrose Power Blend 2003
Multi-purpose
Cetane boost, bio-diesel compatible, emulsifier
HFRR 711, 75 microns worse than baseline
1066:1 ratio
3.12 oz/tank
$1.39/tank

CONCLUSIONS:

Products 1 through 4 were able to improve the unadditized fuel to an HFRR score of 460
or better. This meets the most strict requirements requested by the Engine Manufacturers
Association.
Products 1 through 9 were able to improve the unadditized fuel to an HFRR score of 520
or better, meeting the U.S. diesel fuel requirements for maximum wear scar in a
commercially available diesel fuel.
Products 16 through 19 were found to cause the fuel/additive blend to perform worse than
the baseline fuel. The cause for this is speculative. This is not unprecedented in HFRR
testing and can be caused by alcohol or other components in the additives. Further
investigation into the possibilities behind these poor results will investigated.
Any additive testing within +/- 20 microns of the baseline fuel could be considered to have
no significant change. The repeatability of this test allows for a +/- 20 micron variability to
be considered insignificant.

Ive got a 2000 powerstroker ford.I screwed up at the pump one day and got over 3 gallon of gas in there before I caught it.I went ahead and filled on up with diesel.Never hurt a thing,and I thought it run pretty good.I figured it raised the cetane rating of the diesel pretty good,but the ol truck never knew it.Never dumped any extra oil in my tank.I do know a feller that makes his own 100% bio diesel,and now has 300000 on his dodge cummins with no adverse affects.Its a known fact that biodiesel has better lube properties than fossil diesel,and He has never touched a pump yet,so I would say that a little extra lube dont hurt

Hi Ben,

I have a hard time buying the ATF caused the engine failure.

A diesel rated too use 6gal/hr, more like 3gal/hr at idle, would only use 1 quart of fuel in 2.5mins/1qt-1.25min/1qt, THEN run No2 or whatever the fuel tank was using. That is if the fuel filter held one quart.

I have 30k miles, 750hrs, on a 02 F350 PSD using 1qtATF type F/100galNo2. No problems at all.

I ran 350k miles, 8750hrs, on a diesel that I rebuilt using 1qtATF/100gal, without any problems.

I sure would NOT take info from "kids" that talk on dieselstop.com

T_Bone