Can you run a log splitter off of the M

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KC Bob

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• Sep 3, 2009

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Can you run a log splitter off of the M

 

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karl f

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• Sep 3, 2009

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how do you intend to run it?
if you have a pto or belt-pulley driven hydraulic pump you certainly could. the stock hydraulics would not work satisfactory. low pressure and low volume

karl f

 

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Jim in michigan

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• Sep 3, 2009

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if you can run a loader from the stock hydraulics why cant you run a wood splitter,its just a hydraulic cylinder,,I am able to use my stock hydraulics to run a loader and also to raise/lower my haybine,disk and other hydraulic stuff,so why wont it run a splitter?all I have is quick couplers coming off the side of the tractor where the pump is,works fine,, better not tell my M that it cant do it huh.

 

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FJGFARM

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• Sep 3, 2009

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Don't sell the belly pump short. My H can lift a 10 wheel disc and wagon hoist. The M is even better, but mine has live pump!

 

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IH fan

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• Sep 3, 2009

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(quoted from post at 16:42:39 09/03/09) Can you run a log splitter off of the M

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Standard M hydraulics are single action... You would need to plumb it to an auxillary valve and wire the lever back on the tractor. If you tried to operate it directly from the tractor valve, the cylinder would stroke one time and not return. Loader, disc or plow will drop from their own weight.
Also depends on the diameter of the splitter cylinder whether or not it has enough force to split a log.

 

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Dave_Id

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• Sep 3, 2009

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How many gallon per minute can the stock pump produce? My newer MF 253 did fine with a 4 inch cylinder, but I thought it was a little slow, and if I remember right, it was around 7 gallons per minute. If it takes a full minute to run the cylinder cycle, 4" ,that would be too slow for me. Just curious, not trying to start an argument.

 

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John G. Hasler

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• Sep 3, 2009

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You could add a spring or a weight to retract the cylinder.

 

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mattofvinings

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• Sep 3, 2009

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Using the GPM or cu-in/rev rating of the hydraulic pump and the bore and stroke of the cylinder one can come up with a very educated guess about the cycle time.

In other words, the pump only positively displaces so much fluid per revolution of the input shaft. The hydraulic cylinder has a known volume in cubic inches that need to be filled to make a full stroke. How fast the hydraulic pump shaft is running makes a difference.

The pump peak pressure and the cylinder bore are used to determine peak force that the hyd cylinder can generate.

 

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Smith1000

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• Sep 3, 2009

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I use a splitter behind a Super M.

 

glennster

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• Sep 3, 2009

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the m belly pump is about 100psi or so, you will prolly want to set up a two way spool valve, and run a 5 inch diameter cylinder to get the most umph. the cycle times wont be lightning quick, but it sure beats swinging a splitting maul all day!!!

 

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Bob Kerr

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• Sep 4, 2009

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You can run one , but with the fuel useage I hope you aren"t planning on selling the wood and make money. You only need 5-6 hp to run a splitter and that may be overkill depending on the wood.

 

glennster

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• Sep 4, 2009

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opps that should read 1000, one thousand psi.

 

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rustyfarmall

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• Sep 4, 2009

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Most likely that M will split a cord of wood on less fuel than what a self contained log splitter with a Briggs and Stratton would use.

 

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M Diesel

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• Sep 4, 2009

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Belly pumps might go as high as 1200 if tweaked, but 750-800psi is the spec. They make just under 8 gpm at full load, as high as 10 at light loads. Problem with a splitter is they really need a dual speed pump. Those normally are rated at 12 to 16 gpm at 400 psi (for a quick approach) and then drop to 3.5 gpm at 2500 or so when the real load hits. Selecting the right cylinder will allow the belly pump to function okay, but it won't be all that quick. Depending on circumstances, that may not be a concern, especially if the workfactor knob isn't turned up very far.

 

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frenchmike

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• Feb 18, 2010

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Hi Smith1000, I have a 1963 Dutez D30s tractor do you think I could run a small 10ton log splitter the same way you have ? and if you think it should be possible, could help me and show me where to make the connection as i'm a tractor virgin
Best regards Mike

 

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frenchmike

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• Feb 18, 2010

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Hi smith1000. Please can you help me I have a 1963 Deutz D30s tractor and would like to run a small 10ton Hydraulic log splitter from it, in the same way you have ,I think from looking at your photos it is from your Hydraulic draft control.
Do you think it will work the same for me , if so could you tell me how to do it in laymans talk, as i'm new to tractors

Regards Mike

 

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mkirsch

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• Feb 18, 2010

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(quoted from post at 15:15:08 09/03/09) if you can run a loader from the stock hydraulics why cant you run a wood splitter,its just a hydraulic cylinder,,I am able to use my stock hydraulics to run a loader and also to raise/lower my haybine,disk and other hydraulic stuff,so why wont it run a splitter?all I have is quick couplers coming off the side of the tractor where the pump is,works fine,, better not tell my M that it cant do it huh.

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Technically, it can make the plunger go back and forth, yes.

It'll be comparable in speed to the loader. In other words, not very fast.

My uncle ran a splitter with an M. That didn't last long. It was too slow for him, so he rigged up a chain-driven pump off the belt pulley drive.

One major difference between a log splitter and a loader or a haybine or a disk is that it's CONSTANT back and forth.

The loader comes closest in how frequently you raise and lower it, depending on how you use it.

On a haybine you only raise and lower at the end of the row; unless you have a really short field.

On a disk you drop it when you arrive at the field, and lift it when you leave.

If you don't mind standing there while the splitter cylinder cycles, then you'll be fine. Most people will get sick of waiting.

One thing you may want to consider is adding an extra 5 gallon reservoir to help keep the oil cool.

 

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mkirsch

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• Feb 18, 2010

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(quoted from post at 08:09:47 02/18/10) Hi smith1000. Please can you help me I have a 1963 Deutz D30s tractor and would like to run a small 10ton Hydraulic log splitter from it, in the same way you have ,I think from looking at your photos it is from your Hydraulic draft control.
Do you think it will work the same for me , if so could you tell me how to do it in laymans talk, as i'm new to tractors

Regards Mike

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Mike you really need to learn the features that your tractor has and what they do before you try to use them.

Most modern tractors will have what is called a "hydraulic remote valve." Many have two, three, or even four of these valves.

You need to identify IF your tractor has hydraulic remotes, where they are, and how to connect to them.

We can help if you post pictures of the rear of your tractor, along with the operator's platform. Hydraulic remote control levers are usually on the right side of the driver's seat. The remote ports are on the back, and usually look like sockets about 25mm in diameter, sometimes covered with a rubber plug.

If you have hydraulic remotes, hooking up a splitter is simple. The splitter will have a valve of its own and two hoses coming off the valve. Simply get the right kind of connector for the hoses, and plug them in to one of the remote port pairs. Tie back the remote lever so fluid is always flowing, and start splitting wood.

 

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frenchmike

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• Feb 19, 2010

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Hi i'm trying to down load a photo in the off chance it will help , thanks for your replys, by the way I am also a forum virgin so please bear with me please