My manual says 4 quarts of fluild in my tranny on my 140 and 5 quarts if right angle PTO is on there. My question is this. I want to flush and change the fluids in the gear box and side angle PTO. The side angle PTO has a drain and filler as the tranny box does. So does this mean that 4 quarts go in the tranny and the fifth quart goes direcly into the right angle PTO, or does all 5 go into the tranny box and then leaks over into the PTO? And, if I ever wanted to, does this mean I can just change the fluid in my right angle PTO and not in the tranny if I feel like it by just draining the PTO and not the gear box? If I did that how much fluid would the right angle PTO alone take? I am confused about this. Thanks.
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Hugh MacKay
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Red Dog: Technically you never need to fill the belt pulley gear box. That gear box is constantially supplied from transmission and an over flow allows excess to run back to transmission. You do have to drain it, if you want it empty, as the overflow back to transmission is designed to hold that extra quart.
There is one exception to the fill up. If your going to use PTO or pulley the min. you start the tractor, then you must fill it.
There is one exception to the fill up. If your going to use PTO or pulley the min. you start the tractor, then you must fill it.
I understand. Thanks. Also I noticed this one two different 140's. If the right angle drive is removed, the shifter grinds a little putting the tractors in gear. Is this common or why does it happen? Do I need to adjust the clutches when removing a right ngle drive. Both tractors want to grind without this side drive on. They go into gear but I hate that little bit of grind. Whichever tractor is not going to have this drive on it is going to grind some. Thanks.
Hugh MacKay
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Red Dog: I've never had belt pulley gear box on my 130 or 140, so I can't comment on that idea. I can't see how the belt pulley gear box could make any difference.
All these offset tractors should have gear oil 90W or heavier, I don't care what IH said, heavy oil helps slow those gears when you depress the clutch. Another item that helps is hold shift lever as if you were putting it in a gear opposite reverse. Just hold it against that with clutch depressed, you'll be surprised how quick the gears stop.
All these offset tractors should have gear oil 90W or heavier, I don't care what IH said, heavy oil helps slow those gears when you depress the clutch. Another item that helps is hold shift lever as if you were putting it in a gear opposite reverse. Just hold it against that with clutch depressed, you'll be surprised how quick the gears stop.
Red Dog:
My 140 with right angle vs my SA without is the same way - the one with right angle is much less apt to grind if I rush the shift into gear. Putting it another way.... I don't have to wait as long to put it in gear and not have it grind.
I can only assume the right angle is more mass for the gear lube to attempt to propel, and so the swirl of gear lube does not get it turning as easily.
Mike
Hugh MacKay
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Red Dog: Hold forward on the shift lever, as if you are going to put it a gear opposite reverse, and along side 1st.
No, adjusting the clutch won't help; it is the nature of the beast. Relax, slow down and enjoy your tractor, finding contentment that you know some of it's quirks. It's just the way things were 50 years ago... Actually, it's the way things were 10 years ago - at least as far as my Ford 3930. It's a real "grinder" also.(quoted from post at 16:06:11 08/20/09) I kinda thought that, but it still is annoying that it does that. Would adjusting the clutch help ya think, or just open another can of worms?
mike
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