Hiniker Cab - ROPS?

I just bought a Farmall 706 with a Hiniker cab. Is the cab a ROPS? I don"t think that it is, but I don"t know.

no. I have a Hiniker, makes more noise than anything. It would not support the weight of my tractor. It beats setting out in the sun or the 20 degree North wind however.....so it stays.

My neighbor has one on his 190 XT and it looks like his. A "Year Round Cab" and his had a built in Roll Bar built in. My 2 cents........

Koeppel: Hiniker and Year A Round are the same cab. They are not a ROPS cab. I suspect it was Hiniker in the US and Year A Round in Canada, but I'm not certain. All these cabs I've seen in Canada are Year A Round, never see a Hiniker up here.

That cab is not truely a ROPS cab from an engineering point of view. At the same time it is not a "soft" cab. I have one just like it on a 706 and believe it would support a roll over and save your life. I have taught farm safety to youth for 33 years. I have about 50 pictures of tractor over turns taken in the state of Iowa during the 60's, 70's and 80's. Most of the time even the older cabs saved the operators life. What is most important is that the operator stays in the cab when it rolls over. Possibly add a seat belt. Most operators probably do not wear their seat belt. Newer cabs probably do keep the operator inside when it rolls over even if a seat belt is not worn. Although the whole ROPS concept revolves around WEARING A SEAT BELT. Some of the early 706, 806, and 1206's had what was truely called by engineer's a soft cab. It was all formed metal, straight sided, with no real tubular framing. Sorry I can't remember the company(s) names. Even these light - weight cabs did save lifes. I feel pretty safe in my Hiniker cab.

Hiniker and Year-A-Round are not the same cab. They were built by two different unrelated company's. I don't know which one was built first but one company copyed the others basic shape. There are differences in the doors, windows and the mounting systems. No parts exept the door latches interchange.

MN Scott: I said and I still stand by it,"Same Cab", I didn't say they were made by same company, related or unrelated. YT archived discussion a few years back, suggest no one robbed anyone's idea, they paid for it.

Hugh, we had both the year-a-round and the hinikers here in the states. The 856 I used to own had a Year-a-Round.

They are similar, not the same. Parts won't interchange. That makes them different where I live.
Here's the text from a Hiniker ad in the 1977 I&T Red Book I have.
" Air Conditioned Tractor Cabs Model 1300
The proven popularity of Hiniker cabs has meant profitable sales for Hiniker dealers. Extra strong for roll over protection. For most IH, JD, AC, Ford and Oliver tractors. Air Conditioner (optional) is located within the roofline. Quality built, priced right."
I'd say the Hiniker 1300 is ROPS certified.

Hiniker made two cabs that I know of. The 1300 and 900 The 1300 has the heavy frame from axles up thru cab, the 900 is maybe half the weight .i would say the 1300 is roll over protection.

Rick: If the Hiniker cab is a ROPS cab it will be tagged as such and will have approval of the American Standards Assoc as well as any other country they may have sold them. Secondly I'd have to see that cab in person to believe it is ROPS. No aftermarket company could afford the liability associated with building a cab and not the tractor. Hiniker built the same cab for all those makes you list, same with Year A Round. The liability of assuring ROPS protection would have made each cab cost $3,000. in 1970. As I recall those cabs were $1,500. to $2,000. for most tractors mentioned.

On the issue of same cab, Corporate America's patents would never permit another company to build a cab that looks as closely to their own as Hiniker does to Year A Round or vice versa. Someone paid fees to someone else, and it was spelled out in the contract the changes they must use. I was actively farming when these cabs hit the market in late 60s early 70s. There was never a rumble of any patent violations. In that respect they are the same cab.

This same discussion is in the archives from 6-8 years ago. At that time I read but typed nothing. The folks involved were quite adamit that Hiniker and Year A Round are same cab. Believe me the depth of knowledge here at YT was much greater back then than it is today. I never had either of these cabs, my tractors were primarily operated by employees, and the jurisdiction I lived in required by law ROPS protection for all non family operators. In 1975 when I bought my 1066, the only cab with ROPS protection was the IH factory cab. Everything else out there was less money, but no ROPS. My guess is both Hiniker and Year A Round were both out of the cab business by 1980, as jurisdictions across America demanded ROPS.

Using that veiwpoint I guess the Deere 4020 and the IH 856 are the same tractor to, just painted different colors??? I have owned a Hiniker 1300 and I currently have two Year-A-Round cabs. When you compare them side by side they are as different as the 4020 and 856. You are correct tho they are not certified ROPS.

MN Scott: Are you telling me, you can't tell the difference between a 4020 and an 856, both painted same color and 500' away. I rest my case about the level of intelligence around YT compared to years ago.

So we are all stupid if we don't agree with you? That says a lot. I'll concede the ROPS issue. But saying they are the same cab, just built differently defies logic.

An old cantankerous scotsman is never wrong you know. Everyone who does not agree with him is just plain stupid.

MN Scott and Rick: If you guys are so smart, why don't you try building a copy of something, anything still new enough it has patent protection. Then try to mass produce it for sale. Best find yourself a 10 million dollar lawyer in the process.

Installed both makes of cabs, both are mfg in same area, Mankato, Mn. not far from here. I think it is one of those deals where the owners split off, keeping same basic design with a few changes they could not agree on. Not 100% sure of that. Some thing like M&W co. and A&W. When we purchased a new dynamometer many years ago, we got an A&W. The co. rep delivered and set it up, working with me all morning long putting a few different tractors on showing me the features. About noon, I asked him, what he thought of the M&W dynamometer. His reply, well, I am the W in that co. Art Warsaw. We did not agree with how a dyno should be build so I sold my interest and started my own co. Reason being, he wanted to use a direct reading brake system not fluid hydraulic pumps. This was the only dyno at the time that IH approved to pull the tractors down to overload speeds and hold them there to adjust the torque rise on the 100 series Bosch Injection pumps. That being said, Torque x RPM divided by 5252 equals horse power. Have to keep that in mind when you test hp at speeds below the calibrated setting on dyno at the time of the test. If your rpm is below that set point your hp is not what dial is showing.You need to read the torque and rpm and then calculate the actual HP. I'm a little rusty on this right now, but I think it took about 30% torque rise to maintain (not lose) hp as you dropped in rpm. I understand that some of the latest dyno's automatically calibrate torque and rpm to give you actual hp at any speed but have never seen or used one. A little off subject but just had to throw that in as I think the Year Around , Hinkiker situation is similiar to A&W and M&W.

Scott: Could it be that MN in MN Scott stands for Minnisota, where both Hiniker and Year A Round cabs are built. Very interesting post is that of Pete23.