A Faux Cub A Chop Job on Ebay?

Absent Minded Farmer · Jun 23, 2009

While surfing ebay, this evening, I ran across two note worthy cub auctions. One, I'm pretty sure ain't a cub but worth a chuckle (auct. #330338556420 maybe an Allis B or C?) & the other I'm not sure about. I am familiar with the fact that there was a cub that stood on some high-steppin' wheels. I didn't know they stretched the axles both front & rear. Is this a genuine IH product or a hack job (auct#160344177834). Sorry about the item #'s. I'm not sure how to link to a website. Thanks - Mike

John M · Jun 24, 2009

I think the first one posted the wrong pic, and the second one could easily be built.

mkirsch · Jun 24, 2009

I'll bet the first guy seriously thinks that what he has is a Cub.

You gotta remember that not everyone is a "tractor expert" or particularly detail oriented.

dhermesc · Jun 24, 2009

I think the first one just has the wrong picture. The add says "complete with belly mower". The tractor pictured is neither complete nor has a belly mower.

ScottyHOMeY · Jun 24, 2009

On the first, the others covered the options. Either it's a guy who got his pics mixed up or a tyro who doesn't know what he has.

On the second, just a quick peek in the Data Book showed a "wide-tread increased-clearance attachment." No specs, of course, but that might be what it is. Homemade is still a possibility, especially considering the diamond-plate platform extension.

I know the Operator's manuals for some of the letter series listed and illustrated options. Maybe there's something in the Cub manual to enlighten the inquiry. Seems a little odd, though, that if they made a Low-boy as a separate model that they wouldn't have done the same with a Hi-boy, similar to listing the V models in the letter series as a separate model. Hmmmmm....

ScottyHOMeY · Jun 24, 2009

This just in.

The link shows the kit mentioned in the Data Book.

Regular Cub had a rear tread range of 40" to 56". From there it gets a little confusing. There apparently was a wide-tread-only attachment for the rear that increased that range to 48"-68".

Then down below there is the tread and clearance kit that included the rims for 30" rear tires that seem to be on the one for sale, as well as front axle extensions and 15" rims and tires for the front. All that to buy an extra 1-1/2" of clearance!

Still the tread-and-clearance kit promised a rear tread of only 48" to 64" and the advertised tractor boasts 75". So there may still have been some extra fabrication OR the tractor ahs a combination of the two, i.e., the wide tread only extension with the wheels from the clearance package on the rear, and thre rest of the clearance package on the front. If that's the case, it's possible the seller has 7.00x30s on the back and his 75" is an outside measurement as opposed to 68" between the centers of the tread????
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Absent Minded Farmer · Jun 24, 2009

Thanks guys! I kinda figured the first guy didn't know what he had. Worth a chuckle, tho. Scotty, that scan you found is neat. I was hoping to see a drawbar on the wide rear of the cub. Nope. It looks like thats quite a gap to fill between the tires with a scrawny drawbar. I was thinking about finding a wide cub to pull my inverter, as the cub is the only tractor I have with a wide front & it's great on gas. :^( Thanks Again - Mike

big fred · Jun 24, 2009

Looks like a WF Allis CA to me.

cornfarmer · Jun 24, 2009

In respose to the widened Cub, it appears to me that they have bolted 2 cast iron axle housings to the right rear in place of one, and bolted one to the left side rear axle in between the rear end and final drive instead of bolting the final drive directly to the rear end. The front end appears to have a wider center tube, and possibly the tie rods have welded extensions in them. Just my 2cents-don't have time right now to run to the shed and look at mine to see if this is possible.

screwstick · Jun 24, 2009

The "wide" Cub has been on Ebay at least once before. It is definatly a home made creation. The extra axle extensions are not something IH offered. The "High and Wide" package that was offered for the Cub included: 30" rear rims, the wider front axle, 15" front rims and spacers for the rear (mounted between the finals and the wheel centers). The package was offered beginning in '50 and could be factory ordered with new cub or bought by itself for installation on an older tractor. It was not so much to get the tractor higher, but wider for multiple rows between the wheels.

rterry · Jun 28, 2009

I contacted the seller on ebay and told him that was not a cub looked like allis to me maybe he just didnt know anything about tractors?

A Faux Cub A Chop Job on Ebay?

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