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International A Stuck in Gear

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Larry Hardesty

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I was mowing early this evening when my International A stuck in gear. I have a general idea what happenend and did a search but got 10,000 hits without finding one for a International/Farmall A, so I will run the risk of asking a question answered many times before.

I took the top of the tranmission off and tried to move the shifter. I used to have a Farmall 400 and it would do this and simple to fix. However, I run out of time an put the top back on in almost dark. Now it is stuck in 1st or 2nd I moved a gear while I had the top off perhaps that did something. No reverse and no netural. So what should I so specific to a Farmall/International A??

Also the end of the shifter is worn. Any particular welding rod I should use to build it back up? Does it need any more length (which I cannot tell if worn) or just the sides, which are worn.

Thanks in advance.

Larry Hardety
 
The top needs to come off again to align the gears with their neutral positions. The tip of the shifter can be welded up with a wire feed or even brazed to make it fit the slots in the rails and shift W/O getting lost between gears. When putting it on, be careful to set the forks down onto the gears correctly. Stiff grease can help keep things stationary well enough to assemble. JimN
 
I will ask the "dumb" question. How can I tell when the gears are in the neutral position. Thanks for the helpful information.

Larry
 
With the clutch pushed in, the front shaft will turn when they are in Neutral. Position them so they are 1/2 way in between the extent of their travel. JimN
 
I would jack up one side to remove any binding of the gears when you have the top off so you can line up the shifters having the clutch pedal tied so the clutch disc is freealso will make sure there is no bind.
 
The tip of the lever is usually OK. The wear is mostly on the sides of the ball at the end of the lever. If this has only happened once, I wouldn't worry about rebuilding the tip of the lever. If it happens repeatedly you might want to try reworking it and checking condition of the rails and brackets.

You need to make sure all 3 forks are in the neutral position on the lid. The 1-2 and 3-4 slider gears need to be positioned in the center of their movement. The reverse slider needs to be at the end of it's movement (to the rear as I recall). With the clutch blocked down, the input shaft should be able to rotate freely. Then lower the cover straight down into position. Stick a couple bolts in then try shifting through each gear. If it moves into and out of each gear, you have it. If not, you probably missed with one fork and need to try again.
 
Jim, Thanks, I am heading out to work on it now. The sides are worn but I will try putting it back together again and see how well it does. And probably need to be more careful in shifting.

Larry
 
Fellows, Thanks for all the good advice. I took the top off, blocked the clutch, and got it in neutral. I had not put in neutral when I put it together in dark last night. duh. Mowed three or four acres this afternoon and everything fine. I am a little more careful shifing gears. I probably need to get the end of the shifting level built up and get a new gasket for the top of the transmission. Might be winter day project.
Thanks again.

Larry
 
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