JDJohnDeere
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Anyone ever happen to see the exaust on a 1066 glow deep red? Its happend to me a few times and I enjoy plowing at night even more :lol:
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the tractor vet
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If it is glowing then (10 ya got the fuel set to high (2) the timing is off on the injection pump.
the tractor vet
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Well i have always said that when they go they go but when they GLOW THEY BLOW!!!!!!
teddy52food
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Even in a normal running engine under load, the exaust valve is red hot.
John G. Hasler
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> Even in a normal running engine under load, the
> exhaust valve is red hot.
If you can see your exhaust valves you"ve got a serious problem.
> exhaust valve is red hot.
If you can see your exhaust valves you"ve got a serious problem.
don't know why one should be surprised to see a red exhaust manifold. Iron will glow red at 800F and typical exhaust gas temperatures are in the range of 900 to 1200F when working hard.(quoted from post at 12:26:26 05/19/09) Don't know much about diesels, but if a gas engine did that, the fuel would be too lean... learned that while late model racing (along with "a hot header looks just like a cold one" :shock: ).
garytomaszewski
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Got to disagree t.v., spend 10-12 or this year14-16 hours running her hard and no matter where the fuel is set she is going to be red hot, even if the pyrometer is showing ok.
Owen Aaland
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Seeing a dull red glow at night is perfectly normal. If you see red in daylight you've got some problems.
Hugh MacKay
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Gary: I used to send my 1066 out on custom working, operating a root windrower that made her suck back 10 gallons of fuel per hour. Two young lads were the operators and they went round the clock, 5.5 days per week. Often times the meter clocked up 110-125 hours in a week. I've gone out to the worksite at night, never seen a glowing red mufler, exhaust pipe or manifold in 15,000 hours.
A company came along, tried to sell me a Rockland Rotoveyor, requiring 200 hp. Quite a load for a 1066. Required 2,600 lbs front end weight. The guys operated that one 48 hours non stop except for fueling and greasing. We never saw any red hot exhaust parts even at night.
A company came along, tried to sell me a Rockland Rotoveyor, requiring 200 hp. Quite a load for a 1066. Required 2,600 lbs front end weight. The guys operated that one 48 hours non stop except for fueling and greasing. We never saw any red hot exhaust parts even at night.
Hugh MacKay
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Owen: Read my responce to Gary below. In my time my 4 diesel tractors clocked up close to 60,000 hours. Often times we operated right around the clock, We're talking 560, 656, 1066 and an articulated Deere, the last two having turbo. I've yet to see any exhaust part turn red or even a red glow.
I have seen that happen on the old Farmall gassers. Even with those, something was not right, either timing or carburation.
I did see a chap at a tractor pull one night, gas engine with an extra coil, a switch and a spark plug about 6" from top of stack. He'd turn that on about 2/3 way into his pull, and tractor would blow flame 6' up. I understand he had propane injection both in intake and exhaust.
I have seen that happen on the old Farmall gassers. Even with those, something was not right, either timing or carburation.
I did see a chap at a tractor pull one night, gas engine with an extra coil, a switch and a spark plug about 6" from top of stack. He'd turn that on about 2/3 way into his pull, and tractor would blow flame 6' up. I understand he had propane injection both in intake and exhaust.
the tractor vet
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At almost 63 years old and been building engines since i was 16 from stock ma and pa go to the store mobiles to lets get down the track fast or lets drag that sled out the gate tractors i think i know something about engines and have made lots of spare parts in my day . And even my 806 that is non turboed and putting out way more the stock will stand 8-10 inches of fire out the pipe will not glow the muffler or my buddys 1066 that has been tweek way beyond the reason of sanity will not glow the muffler so if a engine is glowing a muffler then the fire is not staying where it is suppose to be In the hole ,
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JDJohnDeere
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Would it help if I mentioned I was plowing at the time in hard packed dry soil?? And the fact that it was about 40*F
I believe you. I've seen manifold, pipe, and muffler all glowing as if an oxy/acetylene torch had been on them with a rosebud.. I also concede that there might have been something wrong with air/fuel, timing, /, but it was running good & pulling strong & has been ok since then. But what do I know? :roll:(quoted from post at 14:06:15 05/20/09) Would it help if I mentioned I was plowing at the time in hard packed dry soil?? And the fact that it was about 40*F
Hugh MacKay
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JD: What you were doing or how hot it was, wouldn't make a bit of difference. Now, got get your tractor tuned up.
Not sure on an IH tractor, but on irrigation engines at night, it is pretty common.
I had an HD-800 Minnie on a strong well that you could see 1/4 mile away at night. We'd run them 24x7 during irrigation months.
454 Chevy's will do it, too.
The proper fuel adjustment for natural gas on those engines would leave a blue "jet cone" exhaust shooting out about 4-6 inches...
HH
JDJohnDeere
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What I meant was this: If I am not working it hard, even if it has been running for a while, it does not glow. when it does It does not glow orange red, just a dark red. There seems to be nothing wrong with the tractor, fule is just off-road fule, and I've seen regular gas tractors do it all the time like my JD 4020, AC WD45, AC D17 and my Farmall 460
rustyfarmall
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Sounds perfectly normal to me. Leave it alone.
We had a 1066 that was putting out about 300 horse with roughly a stock fuel setting, the block was decked, and we were told the turbo had the wheels in it for a 466. She sucked back less fuel than our stock 1066, and would slip the PTO clutches before it would slip the slip clutches in the 881 CIH chopper we ran with it. And it never pushed flame out the stack.
My uncle fiddled with some of the settings (high idle maybe) on the pump on the 756. It would push flame at night but the manifold and stack never glowed.
On our 1566 we put the fuel to it til it ran the Gehl 1275 (?) chopper better than the 3788 did the day we blew apart its pressure plate. It would blow a column of black smoke about 40 feet in the air, about a foot and a half diameter, chopping on a cool still night. It never pushed flame and the manifold/stack never glowed on it. That should have had a set of 466 heads on top of a 466 turbo, it is a wonder we didn't melt it down with all that fuel and not pushing any more air in with it.
More airflow, even without increased manifold pressure, or increased manifold pressure with the same airflow, makes for lower EGT. And more pressure with more airflow is even better.
My uncle fiddled with some of the settings (high idle maybe) on the pump on the 756. It would push flame at night but the manifold and stack never glowed.
On our 1566 we put the fuel to it til it ran the Gehl 1275 (?) chopper better than the 3788 did the day we blew apart its pressure plate. It would blow a column of black smoke about 40 feet in the air, about a foot and a half diameter, chopping on a cool still night. It never pushed flame and the manifold/stack never glowed on it. That should have had a set of 466 heads on top of a 466 turbo, it is a wonder we didn't melt it down with all that fuel and not pushing any more air in with it.
More airflow, even without increased manifold pressure, or increased manifold pressure with the same airflow, makes for lower EGT. And more pressure with more airflow is even better.
Unburned, vaporizing fuel is a 'coolant'. If you want 'hot', run the sucker lean.(quoted from post at 22:54:21 05/21/09) We had a 1066 that was putting out about 300 horse with roughly a stock fuel setting, the block was decked, and we were told the turbo had the wheels in it for a 466. She sucked back less fuel than our stock 1066, and would slip the PTO clutches before it would slip the slip clutches in the 881 CIH chopper we ran with it. And it never pushed flame out the stack.
My uncle fiddled with some of the settings (high idle maybe) on the pump on the 756. It would push flame at night but the manifold and stack never glowed.
On our 1566 we put the fuel to it til it ran the Gehl 1275 (?) chopper better than the 3788 did the day we blew apart its pressure plate. It would blow a column of black smoke about 40 feet in the air, about a foot and a half diameter, chopping on a cool still night. It never pushed flame and the manifold/stack never glowed on it. That should have had a set of 466 heads on top of a 466 turbo, it is a wonder we didn't melt it down with all that fuel and not pushing any more air in with it.
More airflow, even without increased manifold pressure, or increased manifold pressure with the same airflow, makes for lower EGT. And more pressure with more airflow is even better.
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