Farmall H/baler

Matt S Illinois · Feb 16, 2009

I have a H and was wondering if it had the HP to run a JD14T baler?

Thanks

lpgasonly · Feb 16, 2009

That would make a nice couple. You would not be able to wait to go out and bale hay. Your only limits would be the terrain. Big hills may just bounce the front up once in a while.
Gary

Anonymous-0 · Feb 16, 2009

Hi, We baled with an H and IH small square bailer years ago, baled thousands of bales with our H before we got a bigger tractor. Also used small windrows. Bear in mind the baler probably takes about 15+ PTO HP and that leaves less than 10hp left to pull the bailer on level ground. So no wagon behind and no big hills. Definitely the 300 or bigger with independent PTO would be a better choice. If it was updated to super H power would make it easier to do.
The lack of live PTO is the biggest drawback.

Dave H (MI) · Feb 16, 2009

I would think it would be OK. I would maybe put some weight on the tractor to keep it from pushing you too much. These balers have the usual big flywheel that provides the momentum for compressing the bales. The action that does this is front to back and, as a result, the baler will tend to rock the tractor in the same direction. This is minimized when moving but you will always feel it. Your big problem will be jamming the baler. Without IPTO, if you get into a little too much windrow you will not have the luxury of stopping the tractor and letting the baler catch up. You will have to get pretty good at sizing windrows OR come up with a feel for the equipment and maybe turn out of the row if the baler starts to load up. Otherwise you will be often off the tractor, shut down, cleaning masses of hay out of the pickup tines. This gets REAL old after a while.

Hugh MacKay · Feb 16, 2009

Matt: First question, what kind of production are you looking for? 200 bales per day, 500 bales per day, 1,000 bales per day or more. Less than 500 bales per day the H will work fine. You could probably bale the 500 bales in low gear, and never worry about plugging the baler.

Some of these guys must pull some monsterous wagons, I've baled a few loads, not big production, two loads per day with Farmall 130, NH Super 69 baler, thrower and 20' wagon on level ground. I've yet to see a hill that stopped the Farmall 300 with that setup behind it.

Bottom line, if your looking to do more than 500 bales per day, you best find a tractor 40+ hp with Live PTO. That Live PTO makes all the difference if you looking for big production. I've baled a 100 ton per day many times with the Farmall 300, pulling thrower wagons, there again Live PTO.

chris blohm · Feb 16, 2009

i bailed last year with an h and 24t baler pulling a 16 steel bed wagon doesnt do to bad
the 24t rocks the h pretty hard so if you get off make sure you set the parking brake
chris

dhermesc · Feb 16, 2009

If you do, make sure you have a 5 bar rake (9' or so). That will allow you make small windrows and gives you better control of the drying conditions and the tractor can handle the baler without having to make stops to allow the baler to "swallow" a wad. Don't get to far ahead of the baler/rake with your mowing or you'll end up with ove dried hay.

If you're going to make small bales - make sure you're making quality hay.

Dave H (MI) · Feb 16, 2009

Actually....with all due respect to you and rich below...I have never found an issue with a hill stopping the tractor. The issue is rather the tractor stopping the equipment on the down side of the hill, with or without the time honored error of stepping on the clutch.

By the by, Hugh, I got the mower home from MN and it looks to be a nice one. Appreciate your input on that!

Hugh MacKay · Feb 16, 2009

Dave: Good to hear that, I never did figure out which guy was the hauler, he never got back to me. Last evening I almost sent an e mail.

Cub n M in OR · Feb 16, 2009

Rather than turning out of the windrow, I got pretty good at just kicking my M out of gear when the baler started to plug. I am REALLY looking forward to baling w/ the MTA and its live PTO this year. Also the rocking back and forth was reduced significantly when I pulled the drawbar off and welded the oval pin holes back to round. I'd guess an H with carefully sized windrows and a cautious operator would do fine.

Ben

GeneMO · Feb 16, 2009

At first I thought you would need an over running clutch, but that is taken care of in the baler, Duh.

I guess the biggest challenge would be not having a live pto so when you shove in the clutch you might plug the baler, not fun. Like others have mentioned, it can be done by getting good a kicking it out of gear quickly.

good luck,, Gene

S2710 · Feb 16, 2009

yes you can my wife baled with H for ten years pulling a new holland super 66 and I stacked on the wagon in the hills of western wisconsin by the mississippi. Yes she got damn good at kicking it out of gear to run a slug through.
Bob

Matt S Illinois · Feb 17, 2009

Thanks guys for the input. The H is not my main baling tractor but thought I would use it as a back up just in case. Hay ground is pretty flat so no worries there. I will primarily use the H for auger wagon, raking hay and moving equipment around.

Thanks again
matt

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