130 Transmission Rebuild

Making some progress. The Trans is on the bench and stripped down to only the gears to remove. My new manual from Binder says to "remove the snap ring securing the reverse gear then slide the shaft out the rear of trans."
I do not see any snap ring on the reverse gear.
What I do see is a "pin" through the reverse gear holding it to the shaft. As far as I can tell this pin has to come out. There is no mention of it in the manual, plus I have the original TC-52 Parts book, it does not show the pin.
Any suggestions or experienced hands?

Thanks.

Ya can not always believe what ya read in the books and ya do what ya have to to get the job done with out making more work for yourself.Remember the book was written by someone that was not a wrench or and engineer that designed it .

Ed: You may have the wrong book. I find there seems to be an unusual high number of serial number splits on these offset tractors. At least I notice that compared to the larger tractors I farmed with.

It could be that those larger tractors I farmed with weren't around for 50 plus years, the partsman never changed either back in those days and he knew what everyone owned. He didn't need to ask serial numbers, unless someone came in with something they bought outside the area.

What I wouldn't give to dig up some of those old partsmen, put them behind the counter once agian.

Hugh,
No that's not it at all. I do have a book(s) that I just got in the mail, and I am not all that impressed. i.e. Not alot of thought, or experience are in these photocopies. There are no part numbers, lots of typo's, scant details, poor at best, for a service manual.
Now I know, that there has to be a certain level of knowledge and experience to tackle any "heavy equipment" project. I, personally, am learning alot as I progress, but, expensive manuals that are clearly slapped together for quick profit, I can do without on the learning curve. But alas, we live and learn.

Where did you get the books, Ebay? Copies of the manuals from CaseIH or Binder Books (licensed by CaseIH) have none of the problems you listed. Also, buy an I&T manual for your tractor, and a parts manual. The official IH manuals and the I&T manual complement each other. The service manuals do not include part numbers. In other words buy from reputable sources.

EZ, I got into a discussion with someone the other day about parts manual versions. My observation is that it's more of a problem with tractors that had short runs than with those that were made for longer periods (A/B/H/M would be long runs, Cs, SuperCs would be examples of shorter runs). The parts book I have (a 1955 version) for As and Bs, for instance, is pretty good about showing the serial number breaks for parts changes. The same book for my SuperC (a 1960 version) is lacking in some but not all, instances in that same regard, and we discovered the same issue with the parts catalog pages on CaseIH's own site on a C we were discussing.

The service and repair manuals all typically have very little for part number references in them. They'll have things odd things like numbers for carburetors or governor springs and other odd parts, but very little else, but you should not rely on them supplying either good parts blowups or numbers. They're intended more for procedures in getting the array of parts in front of you apart and put back together in proper order and adjustment.

As far as quality, I couldn't speak to typos. If yours is photocopied from an IH manual, the typo belongs to IH, not the outfit reproducing it.

That said, if the quality of reproduction (especially in the half-tone photos) is poor, I'm going to guess yours was produced by JenSales. I've heard that complaint about their goods often. To my mind, the digital reproduction and better (sturdier) paper used by Binder Books is to be preferred. I know you can get them directly from external_link and folks around here say that theirs are also the ones sold through CaseIHNewHollandFord dealers.

The manuals are from Binder. I don't want to get into a bashing of them. It has been said that they are the best. I'm not overly impressed considering the price. The manuals are better than nothing at all. I suppose I should let them know of my concerns and see if they can fix the typo's etc...

Scotty, et al....

I got the job done this afternoon!
The dismantling part anyway. Just had to pop that pin out of the reverse gear. I found an I&T Manual that I had on the shelf and forgot about. Anyway , now it's on to ordering parts, and cleaning up the transmission case.

As Scotty said, if there are typos they are IH typos, all Binder does is copy them. But, I have never seen a major typo in an IH manual. Most of Binder books are digital copies, but some of their Blue Ribbon service manuals are lower quality photocopies. I have manuals for the Super A, C, H, Super H, M, and 460 -- H and M were from CaseIH, Super A from Jensales (poor quality), rest from Binder Books -- no typos.

Good work!

Glad ya found it! I've said any number of times that it can be well worth the cost of having both the IH and the I&T manuals. A lot of the stuff in the I&T is lifted right from the IH books, but there are little things in each of them that the other doesn't have, and that's turned out to be a big help on more than one occasion.