Question for Other Color Tractor

CHIEFEAVES · Jan 14, 2009

I shared with my Church friend how you folks have helped me go through my M. So wanted to know if any of you would give him some tips on how to remove the sleeves from a 3000 Ford Diesel. He indicates that they are "Dry Sleeves" if that helps. Thanks in advance for helping the other color. Harley

Anonymous-0 · Jan 14, 2009

Actually, you can help him. Dry sleeves describes the type you have in your Farmall M.

spiffy1 · Jan 14, 2009

Now how is that The other color? I just a matter of which dealer you go to whether you get a red Ford or a blue Ford.... oh, am I going to get :roll: for that one. :mrgreen: But if it was a Deere.....
Yike, now I really better hide! :lol:

Back on topic, not sure about a 3000, but I think the 8N ect had thinner sleeves than a dry sleeve Farmall. If so, the destructive techniques like chisle a corner and peel it out might be easier than the sleeve puller. Not positive though.

Anonymous-0 · Jan 14, 2009

I would ask that on the Ford site.

Anonymous-0 · Jan 14, 2009

use a welder and run a bead the length of the sleeve. That will shrink them so that they will come out.

Anonymous-0 · Jan 14, 2009

i have done the welder thing and it works very well. you just stick your fist in there and they come right out.

the tractor vet · Jan 14, 2009

Now unless ford has changed Other then the older fords the newer ones did not have sleeves and ya had to BORE THE BLOCK and install oversized pistons and rings.

Mike Farmer · Jan 14, 2009

I don't know for sure on this but I would question the 'dry sleeves' cos I thought they were wet, but I do accept that my accurate Ford info stopped at FMD series. MTF.

spiffy1 · Jan 14, 2009

Curiousity got me earlier and had to do a quick google. I only checked one hit, but looks like Gene has the best answer and Vet the closest:

What I read was that they were block bore from the factory with a drysleeve as the part of the overhaul (after boring to accept it).

That came from SoundGuy's reply on another site, I've seen his posts before and seems quite knowledgable - from the forum menu page I'm pretty sure frequents the Ford forums here.

So [and this info being true] if the owner knows it has sleeves, it's been bored before and ready to accept new (I'd assume quite thin; and would think much care with the welding technique if that is used instead of pealing them). But Gene is probably right; see what the Ford guys say!

Old Ford Mechanic · Jan 14, 2009

Ford did not use sleeved engines after the "Thousand" series tractors started in 1965.However i have worked on blocks that had thin sleeves installed.Most of these were installed by Ford after the engines were replaced under warranty because of water mixing with engine oil.Those engines had "sand holes" in the cylinder walls caused when the block was cast.The dealers sent the short blocks back to Ford and they bored and sleeved the blocks.They were then "rebuilt" and sent back out in new tractors with another full warranty.I have seen 3,4 and 6 cylinder engines sleeved from the factory like this.Sleeves are listed in parts books for these engines.These engines were stamped with new #'s to denote sleeves installed.The thin sleeves can be safely removed by starting at the top of the cylinder and using a small sharp chisel to peel the sleeve away from the cylinder wall.Once you have it started then take a medium sized flat screwdriver and finish peeling it out.A very easy job.Clean the cylinder walls up and freeze the new sleeves in "DRY ICE" before installing them.

Hugh MacKay · Jan 14, 2009

Ford Mechanic: Your post confirms what I was told by neighbor Ford owner. I drove in his yard one day to see a sheet of steel on his 4-12 pitch roof lifted about a foot on one end. Inside he and his cousin had the pan off his 5000 looking for a coolant leak. I suggested a sleeve leak. "It doesn't have sleeves", was the reply.

Anyhow they had hooked air to bottom port of block, and in haste clamped a golf ball in the top port hose. Golf ball didn't hold, hence the lifted sheet of steel.

He told me he could do an exchange with Ford, quite decent money for his core engine as I recall. I think he told me just over $4,000. for new engine complete with injectors and pump, after his trade in.

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