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Front tow point on Wheatlands. Why not on Farmalls?

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mkirsch

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Speaking of engineering oversights:

There is a handy place to pin a clevis on the front of Dad's "new" W400.

Why do wheatland tractors have a nice handy place to hook a chain on the front? Do they get stuck more often than row crops?

I mean, there are only three things for certain in life: Death, taxes, and tractors getting stuck. You'd think they'd give you a nice sturdy hitch point rather than force you to wrap chains around things that shouldn't be pulled on.
 
Can't say for sure on all of them but my Hs and my M have a clevis looking thing on the front end of them. It is very handy for pull them and in my case made if easy to load them on the trailer when I got them. None of them ran when I got them and hooking up to pull them on was easy
Hobby farm
 
Well our MD has a loop that bolts on to the front of the steering pedistal right under the frame, and turns with the front wheels. Our H does not have this. We always just figured it was because the front end needed a BIG tractor to pull it out when stuck since the front end acts like an anchor if stuck just keeps going down and down. LOL
 

old and caterpillar,

If those loops/clevises turn with the front wheels, they are attached to the steering pedestal, which as I understand, you're not supposed to hook to for pulling the tractor out of the mud.

You're putting all the stress on that spindly little vertical steering shaft that breaks all by itself, let alone with the force of an entire other tractor yanking on it...

You should be pulling on the FRAME of the tractor, not the front end. A wide front Farmall is better because the steering tube is transferring the force to the frame, not the steering box, but it's still not ideal.

The wheatland IH's have this neat little place to pin a clevis to the frame on the front of the tractor, just like a bulldozer.
 
They are mounted just below the frame and bolted right to the front end where the upper and lower pedistal bolt up. Can't say if that is good or bad but it is factory made so all I can figure is that it was made for pulling with
Hobby farm
 
Have pulled stuck tractor out dozens of times by hooking chain on frame rail just behind bolster. Have never seen any damage except skinned paint from pulling from left side, have seen radiator neck broken off by hooking to right side though.
 
Sometime back in the mid-1950s, my Dad took the short drawbar extension plates commonly found on a Farmall B or similar tractor, and bolted one to the front of the lower bolster on each of our H, M, and SM row crop tractors. The bolt spacing on those extensions is identical to the spacing on the flange at the top of the lower bolster unit. After installation, he heated each in a line across the plate about 3" ahead of where it attached to the tractor, and we bent the front of it down a few degrees with an adustable wrench.
This gave each tractor a very useful hitch for backing wagons into the barn, and yes, we did occasionaly start one by pulling it on that hitch. I still have all three tractors, and none seems to have suffered any undue wear or damage from this practice.
 
Just last spring I finally found enough pieces to put a C back together. It had been pulled out of a mud hole with a pickup, but it came out in pieces. Needed another block, front steering bolster, and several other parts. I did my best to get across that if you have to pull hard from the front, run your chain all the way back to the drawbar and watch and don't pull across the front wheels. Its a matter of leverage. Sure can wreck a tractor. I had always heard of it but that was the first I had seen.
 
I'll give it a shot. I remember when threshing with steam the thresher was often times hooked to the front of the steamer in case of a straw pile fire from the steamers exhaust.In an emergency the thresher could be pulled away from the fire.
 
Mkirsch: There are a number of reasons, however I think steelfronts has hit the prime reason, pulling the thresher away from a straw fire. When the oldtimers belted up, they always hooked a chain from front pull hook to thresher tongue.

Couple that with the main reason for not installing front pull hook on a Farmall, really no place to install one on a narrow front tractor, without it being in the way for cultivator mounting.

I've never done much belt work, but I have heard the older generation say the big standards will stay lined up on a thresher belt much better than a narrow front Farmall.
 
We too had a bolt on "Clevis Like" device on the front of our M. It was great for backing 4-wheeled wagons.
 
I will second that! My M has a chain loop bolted on the front dead center and I was told one of the past owners used the tab it is hooked to to push wagons into a shed. Backing can be a real pain unless you have "the gift". Dad won a wagon backing contest at the State Fair back in the 40s. I can do it, but takes several trys and my arms want to fall off afterwards even with the F-12 which steers nice.
 
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