Carter Carb for a 200

I have a 200 that I have been working on for some time. I have re-sleeved the stuck engine and rebuilt the head. It is all back togather and ready to crank. I had the Carter Carburator rebuilt by a carburator shop here in Atlanta. (He did a Zenith at the same time that worked perfectly on a B.) I have not been able to stop the carburator from flooding, that is pouring gasoline out the bottom drain for no apparant reason. The engine will not stay cranked even though I have had it running. Would the floats being out of adjustment cause the Carburator to flood? I do not have the cash to buy a new carburator at this time so I would like to get this unit working if I could. (I could realy use a bailout.) Thanks in advance.

If the float is out of adjustment it will not seat the valve inside. It could also have a hole, be stuck on the sides or some thing else that is keeping the thing from functioning. I would pull it off, take the bowl off an see what's going on, won't take long and is simple to do.

Brian.

LMack: To start with the 200 would not have had a Carter Carb when new. The last Carters were used on Super A tractors. The 100 and 200 tractors had Zenith.

The big problem with Carter carbs is there were about a half dozen different carbs used on Farmall A, B, C and SA tractors each with a different part number on the carb housing. Today only the oldest and sharpest partsmen realize this, and the others think one rebuild kit fits all.

Last winter a CaseIH partsman and I had four different kits on the counter trying to match one with my SA Carter carb. While close, none matched exactly. This in my opinion is why Carter gets a bad rap, modern day builders are trying to match all carbs with 2-3 different kits. For this reason I wouldn't spend 5 cents on a Carter carb, go Zenith.

Check the float level and carb adjustment. Also make sure the needle is clean and not sticking.

Thanks Hugh,
The guy who had the tractor before me seemed to have abused the carburator. It looked like his favorite tools were a sledge hammer and a pipe wrench. All the nut shoulders were rounded off and the carburator bowl looked like it had been beat on with a hammer. I guess that should have told me something. I had already decided to bite the bullet and get a new carburator. LMack

What we had already done was to make sure the float was not sticking. It doesn't. The old guy who built it for me told me to place the float valvle in and turn the carb upside down and blow on the inlet pipe from the sediment bowl. The valve held fine. I am afraid that the float adjustment may be off. See my response to Hugh. I am going to try one more time to adjust the float level (following the instructions in a carburator kit for another Carter). If that dosn't work then I will go ahead and purchase a new Carburator (if I ever get paid again!)

Thanks Brian,

I think you may be on the mark. If I can get the time I will do my best to check it out today. See my resonce to Hugh. This carburator may be beyond help. LMack

Hey Hugh. Lot's of SC's did in fact come new with Carter Carbs on them as well. Can't say about the 200's. There are several models like you said and all a bit different. Finding the right kit can be a job too. I am still running a couple Carter Carbs here and have no trouble with them. In fact I like them a lot better than those damned MS carbs. Zenith is OK but I will never buy another MS.

How's the weather in your neck of the woods? Muddy here.

George: I didn't include the SC in with the A, B, C and SA as I wasn't sure. In checking again, one of my sources, the IT service manual IH-21, say both Carter and Zenith on 100 and 200. 130, 230, 140 and 240 are Zenith only. My 140 has a MS, however this manual lists MS only in the 404 and 2404.

I know when I went to get parts for the Carter in my SA, there were about 6 different Carters used. The CaseIH partsman only had kits for 4 of them and no other listing in his book. None of these kits completely matched the parts in my carb, although one should have according to parts book. I suspect someone sold me wrong kit last time around. I got it working decent, however I always have to turn gas off, when I park it.

There are also several Zenith carbs, however I find them much easier to buy parts for. I've never had any trouble with the MS, but I doubt if my 140 has 700 hours on it yet, nicely broke in.

I expect one could bog a kildeer on snow shoes around here, I haven't stepped off the driveway to find out. We had a lot of snow down, probably close to 45" in the past six weeks, and a lot of frost where snow had been plowed. No frost whatever where snow had not been disturbed. Temperatures had been hovering between 35F and 5F for the entire 6 weeks. On Christmas Day it started warming up big time, hung in there between 50F and 60F with fog and wind for about 60 hours. It rained some but not excessive. This morning we have very little snow left, only the big drifts and piles from plowing. There is some runoff but not as much as one might expect. Those fields not being frozen would soak up a lot of that moisture. We're in very sandy loam right here, I expect if I went 10 miles north in the clay belt, I'd see water running. Anyhow we are back to where we started with winter.