M shift problem

Anonymous-0 · Dec 8, 2008

was putting loader on tractor this afternoon. Pulled up to the loader pushed in clutch and pulled into neutral but when I went to release the clutch it was still in gear. Shifter feels fine. Shift into gear and it just wants to kill engine. Pushed clutch in and towed it to shed for the night. I have read about being stuck in two gears but doesn't that kill the engine? It will roll with the clutch pushed in. I know this has been talked about before I just can't find it. Won't move much snow the way it is now. Thanks for the help.

rustyfarmall · Dec 8, 2008

Being stuck in two gears will NOT kill the engine if you have the clutch pedal depressed.

glennster · Dec 8, 2008

could either be stuck in two gears or have ice in the transmission. get a torpedo heater on the rear end for a while and get it warm. then loosen the rear drain plug, the one below the pto. dont pull it out all the way, about 15 gallon of oil will come out. with the cap loose, see if water trickles out around the plug, if so , you found the problem. leave the plug loose with the heater on it till all the water drains out. if no water, you need to pull the shifter up and out, reach in with a screwdriver and slide the rails back in line. to remove the shifter, at the base in the deck casting you will see two metal circle caps, facing each rear wheel. drive one cap in toward the other side, it will push the other cap out. then from the other side, look in and you will see the pin. drive that back out the other way, it will push the other cap out, then the pin comes out. shifter lifts up and out.

Fixer · Dec 8, 2008

If it was stuck in two gears, it wouldn"t move at all. Couldn't push or pull it. Bernie Steffen

steelfronts · Dec 8, 2008

You will have to pull the shifter out and align the shift raila and put the shifter back in. It takes only a few minutes. It happens because the shifter gets worn on the end. It can be built up with weld and ground back down to fix.

mkirsch · Dec 9, 2008

It's not stuck in two gears yet, only one. 99% of the time they end up stuck in two gears because the operator doesn't recognize that it's already stuck in one gear. Usually it happens when you shift from one gear to another.

What happened is the nub on the end of the shift lever is worn, and slipped out of the 2-3 shift fork with the tractor still in 2nd gear. The old remove-the-shift-lever-and-use-a-screwdriver-to-align-the-forks technique will fix it, but you need to build that nub on the shifter back up with weld if you can to solve it permanently.

For now, be VERY deliberate with your shifting.

Anonymous-0 · Dec 9, 2008

Thanks for the advice. Took the shifter off this morning and yes the end was very worn. Slid rails to neutral with a screwdriver and built up the end of the shifter. I didn't build up the very end (as in make it longer) I just made it square again. I ruined one of the plugs getting the pin out now I have to find one of those.

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