Need help on Farmall H- (Seal)

He guys,
I am replacing the seal that is located behind the brake drum. This is the seal that will ruin your brake bands if it leaks. Anyways, I cant figure out how to get the thing out. I took the 6 or so 5/8's bolts out but the plate that holds the seal wont budge. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Craig

Stop there do not go forward More to come!! JimN

Will do.................. Thanks

TO get you stopped I sent the first message. THe bull pinion carrier will not come out without pulling the bull gear away from it. This requires the removal of the axle on that side, and that is not a small effort.
Put the bolts back in put a little gasket sealer on the flange and retighten.
Put three or fout small holes in the steel flange of the existing seal and put #10 self tapping screws in them. A slide hsmmer will pull the screws out pulling the seal. Get new and put them in, The new are thinner and two can be put in the hole. Put chassis grease on and between them when installing. JimN

Band brake tips-H & M
Remove the pins holding the brake adjuster to the pedal & actuating lever. Loosen & lube them.
Remove the cap screws holding the brake cover; wiggle it & they should come off.
Note or draw a diagram of how the brake band is attached to the cam. Turn the cover over, shake, tap or whatever to get the 2 pins out. If you remove the outer lever & half-moon key the whole thing comes out.
Replace the band & be sure the brake cam pivot shaft works freely in the cover. Oil or grease the pivot the area well and let the excess drip off before installing the new bands.
Remove the brake drum; do not try to remove the bolted-on housing containing the seal. The bull gear inside the transmission has to be removed first to get the housing off.
Using punches, chisels, etc. collapse the old seal inward, if original; it is difficult but will succumb to persistent efforts. Replace with 2 seals per side and place some chassis grease in-between them to protect the outer one from drying out. Polish the sealing surface on the brake drum and re-assemble.
Place a small amount of grease in the hole where the brake pivot goes into the transmission housing. After installing the bands & getting the pedal free-play to about 1", apply the brakes firmly, lock them in place and adjust the set-screw on the bottom side of the cover. (helps to loosen any adjustable parts BEFORE re-assembly) Loosen the jam nut, turn the set-screw in until it touches the brake band, back out 1/2 turn & lock the jam nut. This helps prevent the brake band from dragging, premature wear, and overheating.

After you get the seal out look at the bearing. It should not be missing any balls.

Greg

take a picture(forgot to do that when i was working on my H)

I took the rotor off and i can look in and see the ball bearings on both sides, does this mean it was run with no seal or am i looking at the wrong part. One side was a rust and the other was all oil.What about the washer that comes off with the rotor was this a replacement for the seals?