How much does an M weigh?

Dr. Bert · Oct 30, 2008

A rancher gave me an M this morning. Need to move it to my shop. No fuel, no water in the radiator, no fluid in the tires, narrow front end. Need a ball park figure on the weight. Thanks. PS None of my books give a "bare weight".

ScottyHOMeY · Oct 30, 2008

Right about 5000#, give or take for belt pulley, wheel weights . . .

rustyfarmall · Oct 30, 2008

To be on the safe side, might want to figure it at 6,000. Better to have too much trailer than not enough.

Neb Super H · Oct 30, 2008

5300-5500 in field dress with belly pump and fluids and no weights

Randy in NE · Oct 30, 2008

In other words. I car trailer with 3,500# axles isn't going to cut it. That and you are going to want to have a good towing vehicle. At least a 1/2 ton pickup.

ScottyHOMeY · Oct 30, 2008

Actually, I don't see any reason he couldn't do it with one of those fold-up trailers from Northern Tool and a Kia. Might need to invest in a 100' length of clothes line to tie it down tight. 50' would probably do, but I'd use the whole hundred if it was me, in case there's any bumps along the way.

LenNH · Oct 30, 2008

For what it"s worth, an original sales brochure (I estimate 1942) gives 4260 on steel wheels as "shipping weight." I"m sure that it"s a lot more with cast wheels, weights, water in tires, fluids in tractor. Brochure does not state if Lift-All is included in weight. Probably not, since the brochure calls it "Special Equipment."

rustyfarmall · Oct 30, 2008

Scotty, don't say that too loud. I've seen almost that bad going down the highway.

ScottyHOMeY · Oct 30, 2008

Oh yeah! One of the worst I've seen (tractor related -- I live in Maine -- don't get me started on campers!) was a really nice guy with a really nice redone old Case with the old cast grille, and RC maybe??? He had it tied down well enough, but that was to a marginal trailer with marginal tires. Pulled by a truck with a marginal suspension. Loaded it so heavy on the tongue that the front tires on his truck were skippin' when he pulled out headed for the interstate. Ssshhhuuudddderrrr!

Red Mist · Oct 30, 2008

(quoted from post at 11:45:22 10/30/08) To be on the safe side, might want to figure it at 6,000. Better to have too much trailer than not enough.

Bert: Take Rusty's advice.
mike

S.Gross(in pa) · Oct 30, 2008

external_link say"s 4858 to 6770. I attached the link for future reference.

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JT · Oct 30, 2008

Another thing to look at, beside weight, unless the wheels are turned in, you won't put it on a normall trailer, tractor is too wide. I have to put mine on a deckover trailer, and you won't pull that with a 1/2 ton truck safely.
Jim

John M · Oct 30, 2008

Mine without me on it, about 1/2 tank of fuel, weights, and belly pump was right at 5800.

Dr. Bert · Oct 30, 2008

Thanks All: My trailer is rated for 7000# and I'll pull it with a '08 F-150 4X4. Don't know how this new PU will do, but my old F-150 did fine hauling 5 to 6000 #s.

ScottyHOMeY · Oct 30, 2008

Just watch your balance (i.e., hitch and tail weight) as you may find it different from your last truck, and don't be bashful about stopping to move it forward if it tries to sway on you. Consider backing the tractor onto the trailer if that will help.

Happy motoring and safe travels!

JT · Oct 30, 2008

Weight: 4,858 lbs [2203 kg] (shipping)
6770 lbs [3070 kg] (ballasted)
Length: 133 inches [337 cm]
Width: 84 inches [213 cm]
Height: 78.3 inches [198 cm]

Lee in Iowa · Oct 30, 2008

I once saw a mini van on a single axle utility trailer. It was long enough that the rear axle was on the chained up ramp. Hope they weren't going very far. Lee

Wayta · Oct 31, 2008

Here's one for you! I loaded a SuperM on as far as the rear wheels allowed, and boy did she need balanced to haul her 80 miles. One block away was a new Lowe's. I drove in and right where it needed to be was a pallat of Quick Crete. Bought fourteen of them and put up against the front of the trailer. Got home. Unloaded the tractor. Then, went to Lowe's and unloaded the Quick Crete for a refund!
Wayne

Red Mist · Oct 31, 2008

(quoted from post at 14:04:48 10/31/08) Here's one for you! I loaded a SuperM on as far as the rear wheels allowed, and boy did she need balanced to haul her 80 miles. One block away was a new Lowe's. I drove in and right where it needed to be was a pallat of Quick Crete. Bought fourteen of them and put up against the front of the trailer. Got home. Unloaded the tractor. Then, went to Lowe's and unloaded the Quick Crete for a refund!
Wayne

I feel badly for the way Lowes was treated. mike

charles todd · Oct 31, 2008

I disagree with JT. A 1/2 ton truck with the proper set up can safely pull a loaded "deckover". I have a 1979 3/4 ton 2wd and a 2001 1/2 ton 4wd truck. I have a home built gooseneck hitch in the 1979 and a B&W in the 2001. I pull my 504 with a Koyker loader, loaded tires, cast wheel weights and (an implement if needed) behind my 1/2 ton. I pull 60 miles one way feeling safe all the way.

I just recently installed 4 new tires and wheels as well as replaced all 4 brakes on this trailer. I had some split rims on it prior. I plan to extend this trailer to 25' plus a dovetail for a total of 30'. Also I am going to add a 3rd axle. In a couple weeks I will post a picture of my load when I go pick up my tractor from the farm.

Proper setup and common sense go a long way.

[b:cc49507357]1/2 TON CHEVROLET WITH A 20' GOOSENECK DECKOVER[/b:cc49507357]

Charles

kopeck · Nov 1, 2008

When I moved mine I figured on 6,000, so I used a 10K trailer.

The thing that was a bugger for me though is width. With the wheels dished out the narrowest you can get it is something like 88", most fender style trailers are about 84" on the inside. I dish one wheel in, worked pretty well. Not all that hard to do if you have a tractor with a loader kicking around.

K

Wayta · Nov 1, 2008

Mike, you would be quite correct with this exception. The contractor's clerk smiled as he knew how much I spent with them as I am a General Contractor. Thanks.

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