Bolt patterns

Gearnut

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Hi

I'm looking for information pertaining to bolt patterns at the rear of the engine block (where the adapter plate bolts to the block) of various International tractor engines.

Generally, I'm trying to figure out which engines share which (rear) bolt pattern.

Does a 263-301 share it's 6 bolt pattern with any other block (actually it's a 8 bolt pattern but only uses 6) ? Someone said a M (264/281) uses the same pattern - I'll assume he is correct.

Does the DT466 8 bolt pattern only exist on the D414/D436/DT466 ?.. or is it shared with the D361/D407 block ?

Or, does the D361/D407 have it's own bolt pattern ?

How about the German D310/D358 diesel ? where does it fit into the mix ?

Does the H engine share it's rear bolt pattern with any other series of engines... or is the little 152/164 all by itself ?

For anyone who knows and wishes to share their knowledge- I appreciate !


Mark
 
You asked this same question yesterday and got the response that just about anything can be done if you put the money and resources into it. You are asking a very broad question here. It is like asking if you can put a big block Chevy engine in a Mustang. The answer is yes. But it isn't going to be quick and easy.

You would be better off to ask a more specific question about one model of tractor and if a specific engine will fit.

I am not trying to be smart about this but you are asking a pretty broad question(s) here.
 
Generally each engine family will have its own unique bolt pattern. There are some occasins though where two generations will match up, such as the M block and the 263, etc. But in general if you r swapping a block from one family for another you will have drill new holes in the block mounting plate, adapt it to mount in frame rails, mix and match the flywheels, timing covers, etc.
 

I think what you're pretty much going to find is that each "family" or "generation" of engines is going to have its own bolt pattern.

The C248-C281 4-cylinders, for example, will have one bolt pattern.
The C152-C175 4-cylinders, another pattern.
The C113-C153 4-cylinders, again.
The C263-C301 6-cylinder, still another.
The D361-D407...
The D414-D466, and the D312 and D360 "American" diesels...
The D310 and D358 "German" diesels...
 
Gotta agree, it'd he helpful (to you, in getting an answer -- unless this is some top-secret project that's gonna show up one day and blow all the locals off the pullin' track) if we had some idea of what motor(s)you're contemplatin' puttin' into what machine. You could then get some straight advice and shared experience in what you'll have to do to make it work.
 
(quoted from post at 11:18:38 10/15/08)
I think what you're pretty much going to find is that each "family" or "generation" of engines is going to have its own bolt pattern.

The C248-C281 4-cylinders, for example, will have one bolt pattern.
The C152-C175 4-cylinders, another pattern.
The C113-C153 4-cylinders, again.
The C263-C301 6-cylinder, still another.
The D361-D407...
The D414-D466, and the D312 and D360 "American" diesels...
The D310 and D358 "German" diesels...


Thanks JJ and mkirsch

If it is true that each engine family will have it's own unique bolt pattern, then one could make the logical conclusion that a D361/D407 is different from a DT466, and different from a German engine, which is different from a 263, etc.

That is exactly what I wanted to know


Thank you very much !

Mark Osborne
 
I have seen posts on here about transplanting a c 169/ c175 into a 504, which is a c153. ChadS on the pulling forum has put a 6 cylinder into an H and said it was a bolt in. So, (all second hand info) I would assume that the 263 family has the same bolt pattern as the H thru 350 family, C152-C175.
 

CG tractor, I hope more people like you step up to the plate and give these examples of interchangeability and share your knowledge.

In addition, I've learned 300/400 series engines share the same rear bolt pattern... thanks to a fellow puller, Wayne Stine.

Mark Osborne
 
???Does a 263-301 share it's 6 bolt pattern with any other block (actually it's a 8 bolt pattern but only uses 6) ? Someone said a M (264/281) uses the same pattern

answer

The BD and BG truck engines share some parts with the 263-301. Rear of block may be the same/ front I am pretty sure is different.
 

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