Help identifying two tractors, please?

AllenMcB · Oct 4, 2008

Just acquired two tractors (old, void of paint, very little ID material left), and need some help identifying them and their year of production. Google helped on one, but not the other.

Tractor One:
(This one is the real mystery.)
Rear of axle housing has a cast IH.
Has a silver plate on the RIGHT side with number 13261-J stamped into it, no ink, period.
Trans housing hast cast number 367050-R2.
Has front crank.
Engine number (on right side) is FBH-135875.

Tractor Two:
(Really looking for the year on this one.)
Silver plate on LEFT side says International Harvester, Model H FBH Serial# 313420
Engine serial number on right side is FBH-32010

Any and all help would be appreciated.

Anonymous-0 · Oct 4, 2008

a picture photo would be nice

spiffy1 · Oct 4, 2008

Looks like 1949 on your H.

old · Oct 4, 2008

They both sort of sound like Hs. With the serial number go to the left of this page under research& info then serial numbers then farmall then H and see where that number fits. I'll tell you how but I'll not do it for you. Its the teach a man to fish or give him a fish sort of thing
Hobby farm

spiffy1 · Oct 4, 2008

A real WAG without pictures, or someone more knowlegable than I, but how about a '36 F-30 for the first one?

spiffy1 · Oct 4, 2008

(quoted from post at 12:13:54 10/04/08) I'll tell you how but I'll not do it for you. Its the teach a man to fish or give him a fish sort of thing
Hobby farm

Hello Old,

A bit of a tangent, but since he may be posting a picture this seems relevant; can you set me straight? I'm fairly new here, and not sure of picture posting etiquette on YT: it looks like posting detailed pictures is more often done putting them in Photobucket or similar rather than YT's archives. Other forums I visit, it's most common to post pictures directly so I wasn't sure. In specific I was going to start posting some pictures to my 22-36 thread. Also, is it more proper to keep all parts and events continued to the same thread, or a new one started for each; again, I'm more used to the former, but see a mix slightly favoring the latter around here. Thanks!

Harold H · Oct 4, 2008

Tractor 2 is a 1949 Farmall H. On tractor 1 you said the 13261J plate is on the right side. If it was on the left side it would be a 1940 H but it is not a 1940 H because they did not use the IH casting symbol or R1 part numbers back then. Look for other date casting numbers. The FBH on the engine number stands for Farmall H but the year is also in question. Look for casting numbers and post a picture. I suspect a later model H with some missing numbers.

Harold H

Hugh MacKay · Oct 4, 2008

Allen: No question tractor number 2 is an H. Tractor sounds as though it may be mixed, and I don't know enough about H through to 350 serial and part numbers to be certain, however any serial number ending in J indicates Rockford clutch and IH only started using those in mid 1953.

This is just a guess, either SH, 300 or 350 with an H engine block. When you say no ink writing on tag I say 300 or 350, as tags from that era are poor quality.

Andy Motteberg · Oct 4, 2008

They sound like H's to me, pictures would be nice.

Andy

Hugh MacKay · Oct 4, 2008

Andy: J stands for Rockford clutch and no H ever had a Rockford clutch, at least not from factory, and tractor number one has one. IH didn't start using Rockford clutches until 1953.

Hugh MacKay · Oct 4, 2008

spiffy: Tractor number one is a post 1953 tractor. J stands for Rockford clutch, and IH did not use those until 1953.

Hugh MacKay · Oct 4, 2008

Allen: I just checked out tractor serial number 13261 J, and Super H, 300 and 350 are all possibilities. If sheet metal on tractor one is the same as tractor two, then tractor one has to be a Super H. If sheet metal is different as in steering shaft being closed in over the fuel tank, then tractor number one has to be a 300 or 350.

H is not a possibility for tractor one as 13261 would have been 39 or 40 and neither of those would have had a J indicating Rockford clutch.

D Slater · Oct 4, 2008

Tractor # 1 is a one piece at a time tractor. 367050 is the # of a 460 transmission housing.
FBHM would be the prefix for a H engine.
Think IH did sell that transmission housing as a replacement for 300 and 350 tractors at one time. But I have no idea what configuration of tractor that is without seeing.

Hugh MacKay · Oct 5, 2008

Dave: I suppose that could be another possibility, a 460 with an H engine installed. It might even be another HTA.

AllenMcB · Oct 5, 2008

I"ll get a couple of photos Monday (tomorrow) and get them online here.

Wow, I never expected this many replies and so much help. What a pleasant surprise.

Thank you to everyone.

AllenMcB · Oct 5, 2008

I tried the serial number approach on Tractor #1 several times before posting the question. The drawback was that to use the serial number guide effectively, you first must know the model of the tractor. Since I don't know that yet, I'm kind of blocked on using the serial number guide.

I'm with you 100% on the "learn to do it yourself" approach.

Thanks.

Hugh MacKay · Oct 5, 2008

Allen and others: Second sentence of my original post should have read, "Tractor one sounds". My appologies if I confused anyone.

Allen, while I'm on here, let me suggest you go to Farmall photo gallery, one at a time, type in Super H, 300, 350 and 460. There are numerous photos of each in the gallery. Since you like to figure these things for yourself, I'm betting you'll be back in 3 hours telling us the ID of tractor number one.

old · Oct 5, 2008

Well if I remember right you have one that says FBH or something like that and the H in that number says its an H

AllenMcB · Oct 6, 2008

Here are the photos as promised. There are five total.

AllenMcB · Oct 6, 2008

I added five photos of Tractor 1, the mystery tractor.

spiffy1 · Oct 6, 2008

Great photos! I definitely was looking the wrong direction on the timeline earlier.

Now I'm thinking more like a 300 by styling, but didn't look into the numbers.

Hugh MacKay · Oct 6, 2008

Allen: If this is tractor number one it is a Farmall 300. Fast hitch is different on 300 compared to a 350. The hitch is the deciding factor for me. I can see my suggestion, looking in photo gallery would be quite dificult between 300 and 350 without sheet metal.

AllenMcB · Oct 6, 2008

Except the 300 serial numbers are supposed to be on the left side, on this plate is on the right side. I checked the left side closely, and there's no place that looks like it's had four rivets in it at any time.

AllenMcB · Oct 6, 2008

Pictures now posted.

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