SM w/loaded tires

kopeck · Sep 19, 2008

I need to transport a Super M a decent some distance (200 or so miles). From what I am told it has loaded tires. I would love to shed as much weight as possible before the trip.

So....How much weight do you think the loaded tries add? Quite a bit I'm sure.

Also, what would be a rough guess on what it would cost to have the tires unloaded?

Thanks,

K

Anonymous-0 · Sep 19, 2008

didnt say what you had for trailer. simplist thing to do is load it on trailer with 2- 7000lb. axles, which is lots of trailer for that and giver.time is money, by the time you fooled with fluid you would have it home.you wouldnt notice much diff in fuel, fluid or no fluid. you might find out you need the fluid if you put it to work.

glennster · Sep 19, 2008

with a 13.6X 38 tire, using 5 lb per gallon of chloride, you would have 614 lbs per tire, so you got a good half a ton of ballast in the tires. if you got a good solid trailer, you are prolly looking at 6500 to 7000 lbs for the super, loaded tires, one set of weights, with all lube oils and fuel. i think the super m weighs around 5500 bare.

Allan in NE · Sep 19, 2008

Leave the fluid in; helps stabilize the load.

Besides that, ya ain't gonna even know that tractor is back there.

Allan

Tim Cota · Sep 19, 2008

I have a super m 6495 lbs loaded tires 1 set of rear wheel wieghts if possible leave the fluid in the tires it will pull or work a lot better these tractors seem to need the wieght to realy take a good bite hope this helps Tim

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kopeck · Sep 20, 2008

Thanks guys.

The other reason I was going to unload the tires is that while I have a trailer that can handle the weight, it's s fender trailer and the thing is to wide.

I think I'm going to have to dish in at least one wheel, which I would probably be better off doing with out it being loaded.

How narrow can I get an SM? From what I've read in the dished out stance the narrowest I can get it is 80", which is 4" to wide for the fenders.

Thanks,

K

BTW, I had a deck over all lined up to borrow. Got it home found out that all the breaks where toast. Not that I would have tired it anyway but that wouldn't have been a fun drive...

kopeck · Sep 20, 2008

OK...I just did a picture google search and found 5 or six photos of M/SM on fender trailers. Now obvious I don't know the configuration of those trailers but all the tractors had the wheels dished out and where fitting just fine.

I'm thinking that the stance can be under 80" that I found or some one told me.

The only wild card is this think is a wide front, might be fun getting that to move.

You have to under stand the biggest tractor I have at the moment is a BN.

Thanks,

K

CNKS · Sep 20, 2008

Are you sure you weren't looking at an H? Max width between the fenders of all I have ever seen or read about is 83-84 inches. The minimum tread width of an M with the wheels dished out is 72 inches -- center of tire to center of tire -- according to the Operator's manual. Assuming it has the equivalent of the 11-38 (12.4-38) on it (most have wider), you add 12.4 inches to the 72 and get 84.4 inches -- it is not going to fit. Only way to get 80 inches is to turn one wheel in.

kopeck · Sep 20, 2008

(quoted from post at 12:32:54 09/20/08) Are you sure you weren't looking at an H? Max width between the fenders of all I have ever seen or read about is 83-84 inches. The minimum tread width of an M with the wheels dished out is 72 inches -- center of tire to center of tire -- according to the Operator's manual. Assuming it has the equivalent of the 11-38 (12.4-38) on it (most have wider), you add 12.4 inches to the 72 and get 84.4 inches -- it is not going to fit. Only way to get 80 inches is to turn one wheel in.

Thanks CNKS, I'll dish one in.

Your listing the same numbers I found looking around the web.

This trailer would be a hair wider but the lights are on the fenders so that narrows it a bit. I bet with out the lights it would be 80".

K

mkirsch · Sep 20, 2008

If you've only got 5 lug nuts per tire, that trailer won't have any tires left by the time you get it home, if you get it home.

Minimum I'd haul it with is a trailer that had 6 lug nuts per tire. That's a 10,000lb rated trailer, which will weigh approximately 3000lbs by itself. The M will weigh 6500 with tires loaded, so the trailer will be maxxed out, but it will haul it.

Is that 80" between the fenders? That is the important dimension here, BETWEEN the fenders. The tractor has to squeeze through.

kopeck · Sep 21, 2008

It's ether a 10k or a 12k trailer (It's a family member's, it was for hauling his dozer around).

The trailer can haul the weight, the question is how much work will it be to get the tractor on.

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