Serial number question

Anonymous-0

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Ok guys, Now comes my million questions. I went on here to check my serial number to make sure the year and now I'm confused. My number is FA145769. Now I'm confused I was told my tractor was a 1939 is this right? I'm still learning. My next question is, now don't laugh to hard, where do I check the transmishion oil? I've looked all over I know where to put it in. Now the last question is have a rod knocking, I was told I needed to have babbited???? Help? I'm confused?!
I'll save the rest of my questions for later. Thanks
Marjorie

Soon as I can figure out how I'll put a picture of it on here.
 
If your tractor is a Farmall A, then I make the year to be a 1945. I have not owned an A for more than 15 years so I can't remember where to check the fluid(sorry).
 
I'm sorry I should have said it's a F20. My husband & I just figured out we put some of the decals on in the wrong places. Dang it I guess we'll try again.
 
Acording to the seial numbers on here yours is a 39. As for the fluid I am not sure about an F20. But the tranny fill on my w4, H, Super C are just a screw in plug on the top of the tranny plate just under your foot. The level again with the ones I have is just a plug on the side if it is up to the plug it is full. So I figure yours might be similar.. I would recomend buy a set of mauals for the tractor it has that kind of info in it also.
 
Your F-20 has a high serial number, it appears to either be a late 1939 or a early 1940. IH made a few from spare parts in 1940. To post a picture on the forums, first upload it to the Tractor Photos gallery on the left, right click your image and highlight and copy the Image URL. Come to the Farmall board, type out your post and paste the image URL into the "Optional Image URL" box. This is how to do it on the "Classic View" forum.
 
I just took a look at a picture of an F 20 They don't have anything like I am talking about a top plate.. So that throws my thought out.. Sorry, from the picture I would look around the shifter for a plug. For the level I still think it will be a plug on the side for hight.. Good luck against the Green :p
 
to check the oil, there is a small pipe plug on the front of the transmission case. if you stand in front of the tractor looking at it, it will be on the left hand side. just a little below the input shaft from the clutch. i usually put in about 8 gallons of oil.
 
Hey thanks, now my hubby wanted to know what weight of oil he should put in it? He was told 80-90. Back when he drove them he was just a kid and his dad did all this stuff.
 
(quoted from post at 19:24:55 09/13/08) Hey thanks, now my hubby wanted to know what weight of oil he should put in it? He was told 80-90. Back when he drove them he was just a kid and his dad did all this stuff.

that what i run in all my stuff which is all Pre 39 IHC stuff. some i play with, and others see a good amount of work and the 80-90 is just fine. i run 30WT in the engine. the axle drops get 80-90 in them as well.

oil filters you can get from NAPA, along with the rubber o-ring for the oil canister.


i should have mentioned before that those plugs are 'check plugs' and its full when it starts to run out :lol:
 
F-20's use bearing inserts like a modern engine, not babbitt bearings. I believe its possible to change them through the hand holes on the side of the engine, but if you do have a rod knock you might be better off to tear the engine all the way down & make sure there aren't any other problems.

What's the oil pressure look like? A rod will knock when the bearing wears enough to be loose, at which point you'll also have low oil pressure.

If you do decide to just change the rod bearings, check the crankshaft journals carefully for wear, and mic them to make sure someone hasn't had the crank turned & put in undersize bearings at some time in the past. These old slow turning engines are pretty forgiving, and if you're not using it to actually work you can get away with a lot of shortcuts.

I find it interesting that at a time when most automobiles still had flathead engines, babbitt bearings, and splash lubrication, agricultural engines had overhead valves, insert bearings and pressure lubrication.

Babbitt is a metal alloy similar to solder. Babbitt bearings are poured in place and then scraped by hand or bored to provide the proper clearance. Its an interesting process, but a real pain if you're not set up for doing it.

Keith
 
(quoted from post at 09:32:53 09/14/08) F-20's use bearing inserts like a modern engine, not babbitt bearings. I believe its possible to change them through the hand holes on the side of the engine, but if you do have a rod knock you might be better off to tear the engine all the way down & make sure there aren't any other problems.

What's the oil pressure look like? A rod will knock when the bearing wears enough to be loose, at which point you'll also have low oil pressure.

If you do decide to just change the rod bearings, check the crankshaft journals carefully for wear, and mic them to make sure someone hasn't had the crank turned & put in undersize bearings at some time in the past. These old slow turning engines are pretty forgiving, and if you're not using it to actually work you can get away with a lot of shortcuts.

I find it interesting that at a time when most automobiles still had flathead engines, babbitt bearings, and splash lubrication, agricultural engines had overhead valves, insert bearings and pressure lubrication.

Babbitt is a metal alloy similar to solder. Babbitt bearings are poured in place and then scraped by hand or bored to provide the proper clearance. Its an interesting process, but a real pain if you're not set up for doing it.

Keith


sure your not confusing the F-12's and 14's with a 20?? 12's and 14's used insert bearings with pressure where a 20 and 30 still used babbited bearings with splash lube. The W-40's were the only other engine before 39 to use insert and pressure sytems :wink:
 
looking at the serial number break down on the document at the ih arcives your f-20 was made the end of march 1939 the last f-20 built was 4-25-1939 serial number FA-148810
 
Well we opened the holes & found 2 is real loose, 1 & 3 are a little loose. So guess what we do tomorrow! Napa here we come. Our Napa people belong to our club. That helps sometimes, they keep lots more tractor parts on hand then some. Thanks so much guys you have been such great help.
 

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