mike in mn
New User
I'm a 14 yr. old trying to restore a c-254 cultivator for my Farmall C. Could anybody tell me what color the shovels and shanks are? Are they blue or black or ???
Thanks, Mike
Thanks, Mike
- Thread starter mike in mn
- Start date
GeneMO
Well-known Member
- Location
- Pilot Grove, Mo.
Mike, I am not sure if that is the same 2 row tha fits an H, but if it is, I have an original owners manual that shows how to set up a new cultivator. Just cant remember the model #. Will be a few days before I am home to look at the manual.
Gene
Gene
Jim Becker
Well-known Member
Shovels would have been varnished at the factory to keep them from rusting before they were used. The varnish was to be removed before use, but I imagine most were cleaned off in use. As was said, the shanks were black.
I have used spray wax on some working surfaces. It slows down the rust and comes off quickly in the ground.
I have used spray wax on some working surfaces. It slows down the rust and comes off quickly in the ground.
Andy Motteberg
Well-known Member
Sorry I cannot answer your cultivator question, but I was just wondering where in MN are you? I'm a 15 year old and I live in Detroit Lakes, MN.
Andy
Andy
rustyfarmall
Well-known Member
The shanks would be blue. The shovels would probably have come with that soft black plow paint.
mike in mn
New User
Hey Andy, I'm up in East Grand Forks, MN. It's right across the river from Grand Forks, ND. I do go to Fergus Falls frequently, because my Grandparents live there.
Will you be going to the Dalton tractor show? It's the 5,6,7 of Sept. At Dalton, MN.
Mike
Will you be going to the Dalton tractor show? It's the 5,6,7 of Sept. At Dalton, MN.
Mike
Wayne in MN
Well-known Member
Andy: My grandson, Mike, is really working hard on his cultivator. You have been to my place before; I think you bought an H grill from me if I remember.
Hope you can make our show in Dalton this year.
We are featuring Cockshutt & Oliver.
Hope you can make our show in Dalton this year.
We are featuring Cockshutt & Oliver.
Andy Motteberg
Well-known Member
Hi Wayne & Mike,
Not sure if I will be able to go to Dalton this year or not, I'm going to Rollag on Sunday though. Me and my Dad went to the Field Days show in Park Rapids on August 2nd and 3rd. Yes Wayne, the grill on my H is the one I bought from you, thanks, it looks very good on the tractor. I go to Fergus Falls once in a while, my Dad's sister lives in Fergus Falls. Have not been there for a while now. I added a picture of our H's, mine is the first one, with the cut-off rear wheels, and my Dad's is the one next to mine with the wide front.
Talk to you later,
Andy
Not sure if I will be able to go to Dalton this year or not, I'm going to Rollag on Sunday though. Me and my Dad went to the Field Days show in Park Rapids on August 2nd and 3rd. Yes Wayne, the grill on my H is the one I bought from you, thanks, it looks very good on the tractor. I go to Fergus Falls once in a while, my Dad's sister lives in Fergus Falls. Have not been there for a while now. I added a picture of our H's, mine is the first one, with the cut-off rear wheels, and my Dad's is the one next to mine with the wide front.
Talk to you later,
Andy
The only shank I can see more or less clearly in the picture is the middle one on the rear section in the bottom picture -- looks black to me. The rest of the rear section is blue. I used IH cultivators in the 50's -- shanks were black, or else they faded to that color. I have never seen a new one, though.
Jim Becker
Well-known Member
The shanks seem to end up in the shadows in most of the pictures, hard to tell the color. Here are a couple other WHS pictures from 1949, where the black shanks are easier to see. As you might guess, all shanks from a given time would have been the same, so it doesn't matter what model you look at.
Image ID: WHi-7781
Image ID: WHi-7932
Image ID: WHi-7781
Image ID: WHi-7932
Jim,
Would that be a 1948 cub, with the McCormick Deering decal? or did they drop the Deering mid-year?
That's a much clearer picture and it appears that they are black. Perhaps they were raw, yet black oxide finished? I noticed that some of the other Farmall parts of this era were left bare, but apparently some sort of black oxide. Example of this would be the guide bar on the hydraulic quadrant on the Farmall Cub.
Would that be a 1948 cub, with the McCormick Deering decal? or did they drop the Deering mid-year?
That's a much clearer picture and it appears that they are black. Perhaps they were raw, yet black oxide finished? I noticed that some of the other Farmall parts of this era were left bare, but apparently some sort of black oxide. Example of this would be the guide bar on the hydraulic quadrant on the Farmall Cub.
Jim Becker
Well-known Member
The "Deering" was dropped some time during 1949. The Archives says the pictures were taken in 1949. The tractors/cultivators could have been built any time before that. The first picture appears to be fairly early as the hand lift parts, front mounting frames etc. are all blue. It has the "Deering" decal and the long instrument panel (also changed mid-49). The second one is a later tractor as it has no "Deering" on it. It also has hydraulics and all the common lift parts are red. The shanks in both pictures appear black to me.
IH did use methods other than paint to protect some parts, but it was fairly rare back then. Some parts were parkerized, which results in parts that are almost black. I think you will find that on some rear axle shafts where an adjustable rear wheel clamps on. The bar at the hydraulic control lever is a light color, so maybe it was cad plated or similar (maybe the same as the rear rims?). In the case of the shanks, it was ordinary black paint.
IH did use methods other than paint to protect some parts, but it was fairly rare back then. Some parts were parkerized, which results in parts that are almost black. I think you will find that on some rear axle shafts where an adjustable rear wheel clamps on. The bar at the hydraulic control lever is a light color, so maybe it was cad plated or similar (maybe the same as the rear rims?). In the case of the shanks, it was ordinary black paint.
Similar threads
We sell tractor parts! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today.
Copyright © 1997-2024 Yesterday's Tractor Co.
All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.
Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters
Website Accessibility Policy