414 value question

I know where theres a pair of 414 tractors both do not run one is a diesel and the other a gas. One has a loader maybe both don't remember for sure. Both have pretty good rear tires on them. Not sure if either one is locked up or not. Any how are they worth $350 each or for the pair $650?? My thinking is more like $500 for the pair but not sure. Also are they English made tractors?? And how hard are parts to find for them??
Thanks.
One more how close are they to the 424 tractor as in engines etc??
Thanks again
Hobby farm

Hi Old, the B414 gas and Diesel were both build in the UK. The Diesel had a glow plug start BD154 engine and the gas had a BC144 engine. Now some units were shipped in parts from UK and assembled in the USA. These units had Delco Remy electrical systems instead of Lucas. Different front axles and some may even have different gas engines like the C-135 or C-146.
B414,434,444,384 are all the same, the B275,424 and 354 are the same frame but may have different engines.
We had B414,434 and 384 for loader tractors. Very robust and reliable. Only problems, require good battery to light the glow plugs and brake disks require annual servicing. In Canada these were the most popular 35-40HP tractor even beating out the MF35 and 135.

JimB

is a 3414 the same as what your talking about? if so , are the brakes easy to fix? ya have to jump on em and still they dont work very good!

Nope 2 different tractors

Hi Poorfarmall, yes 3414 and 3444 were the industrial models, may have heady duty front axle, front mounted hydraulic pump and some additional hardware.
Re Brakes, now it has been 40 years but here is the fix, remove the disk brake housing by removing the adjustment bolt from the brake pedal lever and the 4 bolts that hold the housing to the side of the differential. Inside you will find 2 disks and an expansion mechanism that has 3 rollers in between held together with 3 springs.
The brakes work by the rollers running up the ramps in the expansion mechanism and pushing against the disk surface. First cleanup the rollers and ramps, do not apply any kind of grease that brake dust will stick to. Next examine the disks for wear, most likely they are just glazed and shiny. I would take a wire brush and buff them to remove the glaze. The other problem that happens is when the disks are replaced, the new disks will only make contact on the outer edge of the of the worn brake housing. Solution is to grind a 1/16" off all way around the outside of new disk so they will contact the worn surface of the housing. Someone must have invented a tool to turn the worn brake housing surfaces but I never had access to one.

Good Luck
JimB

thanks jim, this machine is old reliable, never fails to start. my uncle brought it new in 65, ithink it still has the oridgnal oil?