Anonymous-0
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i was wondering if any one has ever changed a straight farmall m with belly pump hydraulics to live hydraics like the super m.and what needs to be done?
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Steven f/AZ
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Get the pump, camshaft timing gear, and front cover and plate.
You can get away just installing the pump and hope the gear holds up. Also the cover and plate can be made to work by re-drilling one of the holes that holds the pump on.
And there's always belt drive, chain drive, and shaft drive if you want a fabrication project. :wink:
You can get away just installing the pump and hope the gear holds up. Also the cover and plate can be made to work by re-drilling one of the holes that holds the pump on.
And there's always belt drive, chain drive, and shaft drive if you want a fabrication project. :wink:
Janicholson
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Three routs to take.
Use an aftermarket M&W pump designed to be used on older Ms. Changing the gears in the front cover to Late M or SM gears is very desirable, some have had the gears strip, or keyways shear, from overloading a gear not designed to run the pump.
Type 2 is to use the front cover and gears from a late 51 or newer M SM SMTA. These have the heavier gears and the bolt spacing for the pump matches the spacing for IH pumps.
the third is to use a belt driven pump.
In all cases, a Belly pump with the guts taken out and a plate made for the resulting hole have been used for a reservoir. A spool valve setup is used to control the cylinders. JimN
Use an aftermarket M&W pump designed to be used on older Ms. Changing the gears in the front cover to Late M or SM gears is very desirable, some have had the gears strip, or keyways shear, from overloading a gear not designed to run the pump.
Type 2 is to use the front cover and gears from a late 51 or newer M SM SMTA. These have the heavier gears and the bolt spacing for the pump matches the spacing for IH pumps.
the third is to use a belt driven pump.
In all cases, a Belly pump with the guts taken out and a plate made for the resulting hole have been used for a reservoir. A spool valve setup is used to control the cylinders. JimN
Dan Bear Kelley
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Good advice above. Also, if you want a slick setup, the Super M pump or an M&W pump (if you can find one) are the best ways to go. They look great--especially if you neatly plumb hardlines. I've got a 1951 M, so I'm going to go with the Super M pump one of these days. Look around on the web, and you can find one rebuilt. It's a goodly chunk o' cash ($600~$700), but then you're not dealing with someone else's problems, as you would with an e-bay pump.
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