My son has a Int Model C. The gen is charging to high amps and boiling the fluid out of the battery. Iam familar witht the M 3 brush gen and HLBDO light switch but the c only has a OBD sw. there is a box under the gen that has 2 coils(contacts) in it. However it looks like it is wired up only to be a C/O. When I took the cover off the Gen I only saw 2 brushes but maybe the 3rd on (if it is there) is on the motor side and I cant see it with out removing the gen. It is on the opposite side then the M is. COuld you tell me waht type of system the C had and if it is a 3rd brush what direiction should I move it to reduce the amps. We have tried leaving the Light on but it still seems to boil the battery. Sorry to be so long winded and thanks
 
"C" 48 to 51 gen should have 3 brushes and a voltage regulator mounted below the gen. All four terminals should be wired.

Check out Case IH http://www.caseih.com/parts/parts.aspx?navid=123&RL=ENNA

or farmall Bob's wiring dia.

http://s101.photobucket.com/albums/m46/farmallbob/Farmall%20Tractor%20Wiring%20Diagrams/?action=view&current=02-6vSHandSMstock-rev04_17_08_08-1.gif
 
I'm throwing a link to BobM's very helpful library of diagrams at the bottom of this. You can look over diagrams 2,3, and 4 (Same tractors, but different combinations of V/R vs C/O, mag vs. battery ignition). One of them will help you figure things out.

I'd also suggest you snoop aruond the archives for posts from JohnT. I can't find my direct link to it all of a sudden, but he has posted a very good troubleshooting sequence for pin-pointing problems like yours. He's posted it many times, so it shouldn't be too hard to find.

Sounds very much like your V/R or C/O is either bad or just not wired up right.

As far as your third brush, My Super C operator's manual doesn't address it, perhaps one for a C would.

From the manual for my BN, moving the third brush in the direction of rotation of the armature increases output, and counter to rotation reduces it.

Two cautions in making that adjustment. Book says not to set the third brush any closer than 3.2 bars on the commutator from the main brush. Second is to merely loosen, not remove, the screw on the face of the generator that secures the third brush. The way they put it is to loosen it only enough to take the tension off the lockwasher and to tighten it back down after any adjustment.

My book lists max output for the generator at 13-16 amps cold and 9-11 amps hot.

That said, I think your problem is more ikely gonna be in the relay/regulator, whichever you have, and I'd check that out before messing with the third brush. Try cleaning up the points inside it and cleaning up all the wire connections first, as well as the ground for the VR/CO. I'd even replace it if that fails befoe toying with the third brush. Only caution there is that my completely unscientific assessment from all the past posts on issues like this is that one out of four replacements is bad right out of the box. My own experience has been worse than that! 8^(

And you thought you were long winded . . . '8^)

HTH.
BobMs diagrams
 
If it has a ODB switch, the use ov a voltage regulator is necessary. The F terminal on the gen should attach directly to the Field terminal on the VR. If it is not that way, I believe it is then either grounded (making it charge as much as it can) or if the field is grounded internally from a short to ground in the gen, it could also stay at full charge output.

First take the field terminal loose at the generator. (the wire will not be a "hot wire" so it is not to be worried about. If it now does not charge, we are getting better.

Next use a different wire to connect to the Field terminal of the VR. (with nothing else connected there). If it now charges, but not as much, or charges less after a few minutes, it may be fixed.

Use a reliable (good) digital or analog meter to check charging voltage, it should be 7.2 to 7.5 volts with a charged battery. Any more than this and it will over charge it.

I hope this helps, John Ts charging system diagnosis chart is also standard best practice. JimN
 

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