I just rebuilt my 450 motor and when i slid the tractor back together my cluch dosent want to work now. i used the old flywheel disk and plate. i split it back apart and the fingers were all stuck in the down position so i reset them so they were out and slid it back together but no luck. with it together i cant turn the engine by hand or with a pipewrench it acts like it is in gear but the shifter is in nuteral. any sugestions would be grate.
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I'll be the first to admit I don't know all the possible solutions you your problem, but your situation reminds me of a riddle I heard years ago...
Question: You know what you get when you rebuild the engine in a worn out tractor?
Answer: A worn out tractor with a rebuilt engine.
Having said that, I want you to know I have a Super M with a rebuilt engine that is going to need a clutch job pretty soon....
mike
Janicholson
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Some guesses:
The disk might be in backwards. Center torsion springs away from FW.
This will cause the fingers to be compressed way beyond their normal release position. It will also cause the clutch to not release at all.
if the trans is in neutral, TA forward, the tractor should roll forward and back. If it does not, the trans is stuck in two gears at once. Pull the shifter off the top of the platform, and align the shift rails.
If the trans is not stuck in two gears, and the engine will not turn, then something in the bell housing FW area is not installed correctly.
If you are relying on the starter to turn the engine, the starter may be jambed in the FW
Loosen it till it gets free and retighten the bolts. Keep us informed on the issue. JimN
The disk might be in backwards. Center torsion springs away from FW.
This will cause the fingers to be compressed way beyond their normal release position. It will also cause the clutch to not release at all.
if the trans is in neutral, TA forward, the tractor should roll forward and back. If it does not, the trans is stuck in two gears at once. Pull the shifter off the top of the platform, and align the shift rails.
If the trans is not stuck in two gears, and the engine will not turn, then something in the bell housing FW area is not installed correctly.
If you are relying on the starter to turn the engine, the starter may be jambed in the FW
Loosen it till it gets free and retighten the bolts. Keep us informed on the issue. JimN
well the ta is forward and all the rails are in line, the cluch plate is in the corect and still nothing. there are two shafts comming into the bell houseing and the biger of the two dosent move but the smaller one dose. so i am thinking that is why i cant turn it over by hand??? i am lost on this thing.
If the bigger of the two input shafts to the transmission does not turn it is a problem with the PTO as that shaft drives the independent PTO directly from the engine bypassing the clutch. Check the band adjustment in the PTO unit in the back to make sure they are adjusted correct. If that is OK you may have to pull that unit or it could be a problem with the drive system in between (which is probably unlikely). Roger
CenTexFarmall
Member
Hmm...
I have a Super M with a rebuilt trans/rear but a worn engine.
I have a Super M with a rebuilt trans/rear but a worn engine.
CenTexFarmall
Member
There seems to be a fair number around here in Central Texas and as you head south toward Austin.
Too many trees for farming in East Texas, too dry out West until you get to the Panhandle. There's some up there. I should amend that, I have seen some in cotton country out west in the area between Brownwood and San Angelo.
When the Farmalls were new there were plenty of suitably sized farms for them in a trapezoid between Corpus and Houston and then up to Weatherford or so and then over to Paris, maybe a little further east.
I see a lot more of them in work clothes than fixed up. I see a lot more green tractors fixed up but not working.
Too many trees for farming in East Texas, too dry out West until you get to the Panhandle. There's some up there. I should amend that, I have seen some in cotton country out west in the area between Brownwood and San Angelo.
When the Farmalls were new there were plenty of suitably sized farms for them in a trapezoid between Corpus and Houston and then up to Weatherford or so and then over to Paris, maybe a little further east.
I see a lot more of them in work clothes than fixed up. I see a lot more green tractors fixed up but not working.
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