Farmall 230 Question

Mark Peters · Mar 10, 2009

Any of you guys out there have an answer to this question ? I know that IH had the Hydra Touch hydraulics on their larger tractors and offered it ,I think , as standard equipment on the 230. But I have seen or know of at least four 230`s that have the old Touch Control hydraulics on them.My question is this : Could you order it from the factory with either system, or would it have been done at the dealer as a field conversion package ? I`ve always wondered about this and always thought it was kinda strange that 230`s had 2 different hydraulic systems on them. I figure some of the farmers buying these tractors already had the front cultivators that worked with the old touch control system from the Super C and didn`t want to buy new cultivators that only worked with the new hydra touch offered on the 230,so maybe there was some demand for 230`s with touch control. I`m looking forward to others` thoughts about this.Thanks,Mark

georgeky · Mar 10, 2009

Mark, that is a good question. All the 230's I have seen including the one dad had used the hydro touch. The front end would use the same implements as the touch control. The 230 has a rock shaft and lift arms that mounts under the fuel tank and is operated from a linkage to the fast hicth. Dad traded his 230 off but I have the rock shaft lift unit for it here somewhere.

Some early 230's may have came with touch control but I haven't seen one.

Mark Peters · Mar 10, 2009

Hey George, Now you bring up another question. I looked at a 230 with the hydra touch hydraulics and it had cultivators on it. It had the rockshaft going under the gas tank that you speak of, but it works off a hydraulic cylinder mounted on the left side front cultivator . It looked like a factory set up to me, but I could be mistaken for sure.I guess there`s lots of mysteries out there as to what IH all did! Mark
P.S. I`m watching for a front end of a C-20 FH plow for ya.

erik dekeyser · Mar 10, 2009

I dont think that any 230s had touch control. They were the first with the new style hydrolics. After them came the 240 and they didnt have touch contol either. I could be wrong but i have never seen one with touch control.

georgeky · Mar 10, 2009

Yep, I think they could be rigged up either way. With the cylinder front and back would work indepently of one another. Dads worked off a rod hooked to arms on the fast hitch and raised all together. It may not have even been hooked up right for all I know. I will look at the bracket next time I find it to see what it really looks like. Haven't seen it in 15 years or more but it is here in a barn somewhere. We took the cultivator off it and never used it. Done our cultivating with the C since we had side dressers for it.

I still haven't found a hitch for the C-20. Found all the other parts but no hitch.

LMack · Mar 10, 2009

My Uncle had a 240 with duel hydra touch cylinders for the cultivators. Since he had the frames from his old SC, he simply removed the lift rods extending from the rock shaft to the frame and replaced it with cylinders. Personally, I thought the touch control was superior. You almost needed gage wheels for depth control of the hydra touch.

Mark Peters · Mar 10, 2009

Like I said in my first post, I know of at least 5 230`s with touch control.Only saw one in person, but saw pictures of the other 4 and there`s no mistaking it in the photo`s.Before about 2 weeks ago I knew of 3,all people I know ,but I was looking to buy a 230 so I put an ad in YT classifieds and came up with 2 more.I really don`t know what to make of it.

ben brown · Mar 10, 2009

the one my dad bough new had the 2 point hitch with the cly. on it no rock shaft under the tank and a second remote for hy cly . if you wanted to lift something on the front you pined the hy cly on two point hitch and hook it solid leaving the lift arms free to run a rod or chain off them we had a bull rake on ours at that time we live in north west colo.

Hugh MacKay · Mar 11, 2009

Mark: I've seen a number of items like touch control make it to the new tractor just because the old farmer was too stubborn to change. I've heard of 230s with touch control, I've never seen one, however I have seen a super C with hydro touch. I suspect there lies your answer, on just how touch control made it to 230s.

My dad had a 1942 W4 with fibre belt pulley. He traded for a new H in 51, and it was ordered as having a fibre pulley. It arrived with a new steel pulley. Half hour later it had a fibre pulley and the 1942 W4 left the yard with a new steel pulley.

mkirsch · Mar 11, 2009

There's a 230 around here with touch control too. It runs the baler at a small tractor show they have in Hamlin NY every year.

I recall reading in one of the Farmall books that touch control could be ordered from the factory on a 230 if the farmer wanted it. I also recall reading that a cylinder and rockshaft arrangement was used to lift the cultivators in place of the touch control.

Regardless, the 230 is very little changed from the 200 which is very little changed from a Super C. No reason a touch control couldn't be transplanted.

IH fan · Mar 11, 2009

Anyone who has ever cultivated hundreds of acres of corn with one of the Super Cs or newer model with touch control [u:c0391b191c]and[/u:c0391b191c] fast hitch should know how slick they were. Turn into the corn rows, slap the touch controls back to the stops, grab the fast hitch valve handle and the rear hits the ground in the same location as the front. Other than only being a 2 row, it was the [u:c0391b191c]perfect corn and bean cultivator[/u:c0391b191c]. We even had the rotary hoe shields that allowed you to drive fast the first time through the corn... didn't have to creep through the corn when it was small.

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