super c 6v or 12v

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i just got a super c that has no battery in an and was wandering is it 6v or 12v.6v battery does not turn the starter over but the coil on the side of tractor has 6v on it.how can you tell if it is 6 or 12v.wandering if someone put a 6v coil on a 12v tractor.thanks
 
If it has a generator with a voltage regulator near by it is most likely a 6-volt. If it has an alternator it is most likely a 12-volt. Do you have the old battery? If so, the 6-volt battery will have 3 fill holes compared to 6 for a 12-volt. If it is not turning the engine enough to start, you may have a weak battery or the cables may be too small. The cables need to be 4-0 wire for a 6-volt system. Sometimes an old a starter may drag if it needs a rebuild.
 

When new it would have been 6 volts, but who knows what has been done to it. If it has an alternator on it then most likely it is 12 volts but if it has a genny then most likely 6 volts
Hobby farm
 
If the generator has a red label [Delco Remey] it is probably not 6-volt. See if you can find the voltage regulator on a bracket just below the generator. Is it "hooked up" yet?? If so, it will have a 6 P if it is 6-volt or 12 P [maybe N] if it has a 12-volt generator --stamped on the mounting tab. This assumes a Delco regulator.
 

Guys, please avoid using technobabble and abbreviations, especially ones you just made up on the spot. Our new friend johndd might not be up on our "lingo" and until we establish his level of expertise, it's best to use plain English.

johndd, in a nutshell, the Super C was originally a 6-Volt positive ground system (what Brownie 450 calls "6 P", which is a shorthand that I've never seen before). That means it takes a 6 Volt battery with the + terminal connected to the tractor frame, and the - terminal connected to the starter.

It sounds like yours is still original given that it has the 6V coil. However, you need to identify whether the tractor still has the original generator, or an alternator on the left side of the engine. A generator will be a mostly smooth cylinder, usually painted red at some point, but sometimes black if it was replaced since the tractor was painted. An alternator will look stubby with ventilation slots, and will generally be natural metal color. A sure telltale sign of an alternator conversion are crude homemade brackets and/or threaded rod holding the alternator.
 
If you suggest that someone check for codes stamped into a part, it is probably more helpful to tell them the technobabble that is actually stamped into the part, rather than translating it to plain English and expecting him to translate it back.

Delco stamped "6P" directly into the mounting bracket of the regulators (although sometimes they stamped "P 6V"). The point is, the bracket will have some combination of the number 6 or 12 and the letters N or P. They will not be stamped "6-Volt positive ground system". The bracket isn't big enough.

By the way, some non-Delco regulators will be stamped on the bottom side. Sometimes it is just an ink stamp, which may be long gone. It may be abbreviated "6POS" rather than "6P". Regulators that are intended for either positive or negative ground may just be stamped with the voltage.
 

That's all well and good, Jim, if you put the statement in CONTEXT.

Simply referring to "6 volt positive ground" as "6P" with no clear context is meaningless. Saying that it is stamped on the regulator, and that it means "6 volt positive ground" puts it in context.

Going back and re-reading Brownie 450's post a couple more times, I see that he did (sorta) say that. If it wasn't clear to me on the first pass through, I can't believe that it would be clear to someone just getting into his first tractor.
 

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