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Case Nutty 1660

12-11-2012 13:36:01
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here is the pic I have for the factory wheel weights Case had for 1270/1370, we never put any of these on but did equip them with the stack weights, some of the old Case dealer people here may know who the man in the pic is cnt

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bradley martin

12-12-2012 03:19:51
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Re: 1370 wheel weight in reply to Case Nutty 1660, 12-11-2012 13:36:01  
Those weights (like long axles) would be very hard on machine shed door jambs and gate posts!!!

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1370rod

12-11-2012 19:13:16
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Re: 1370 wheel weight in reply to Case Nutty 1660, 12-11-2012 13:36:01  
I have never seen weights like that before. Funny how things differ in parts of the country. We sold more 1370's than anyother model and not one had a weight on, neither front or rear. Every 1070 and 1370 had a rock box installed to fill if front weight was called for. Some might wonder what the heck that is. If weight was needed on the rear, mr. farmer had fluid pumped in the tires. Rod.

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BarryfromIA

12-11-2012 17:16:12
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Re: 1370 wheel weight in reply to Case Nutty 1660, 12-11-2012 13:36:01  
on the Big Iron auction there is a 1370 with transmission problems. Item #88163 and it has these weights on it. It is located in Ada OK.

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casecollectorsc

12-11-2012 16:38:02
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Re: 1370 wheel weight in reply to Case Nutty 1660, 12-11-2012 13:36:01  
We have a set of weights like that with the word Case that came off a early long nose 930.

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560farm

12-11-2012 14:35:19
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Re: 1370 wheel weight in reply to Case Nutty 1660, 12-11-2012 13:36:01  
I have never seen those in real life, only in a few book pics. We had fluid in ours as most around did or the "normal" stackable style wheel weights.

Brad

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Adirondack case guy

12-11-2012 14:10:40
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Re: 1370 wheel weight in reply to Case Nutty 1660, 12-11-2012 13:36:01  

Bro.
Bill S "MR. CASE" looks a little puzzled by those weights. So am I LOL.
He loved the 13 &1570s., and the W_I_D_E door opening And was even prouder of the 23-2590s. He always refered to the hump on the hood of 23/2590 tractors was acording to him, "a power bulge" He was a big man in many respects, and I was glad to have had the honor to talk to him on numerous ocasions.
Loren

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Agri King

12-11-2012 23:00:43
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Re: 1370 wheel weight in reply to Adirondack case guy, 12-11-2012 14:10:40  
Loren, What was Bill's job at Case?

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Adirondack case guy

12-12-2012 06:07:13
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Re: 1370 wheel weight in reply to Agri King, 12-11-2012 23:00:43  
Bill was a man of many hats, within Case Co. I don't know what his official title was, Head of R&D, I believe. When we were expressing the need for Case to Offer a front wheel drive on the 70 series tractors, he was the "go to man" He made all the arangments for me to get a 1070 shipped to mud hog and have the hydraulic front asist designed and mtd. to it. They went on to design it for the 90 series also, and it wasn't long before the mfd was offered. Bill had told me when we got the ball rolling on the 1070 that things were in the "works", and be patient. At that time Oliver/White had taken over the 80-120HP tractor market, in our area.
Bill was also the PT Barnum in Case Co. During Dealer Intros etc. He was the Ring Master.
One thing that always impressed me from the time I started going to Case gatherings, was that all the Case managment people made themselves available to their dealers and especially when were out in the field for sales schools or intros, they got in the food line and sat down to eat with us. That changed after the merger.
Loren

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Agri King

12-12-2012 18:31:19
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Re: 1370 wheel weight in reply to Adirondack case guy, 12-12-2012 06:07:13  
Thanks Loren, Very interesting.

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Adirondack case guy

12-11-2012 14:15:37
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Re: 1370 wheel weight in reply to Adirondack case guy, 12-11-2012 14:10:40  
Bro,
Was the cap unbolted from that and then a Case cast center dual bolted to it?
Loren

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Case Nutty 1660

12-12-2012 02:56:47
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Re: 1370 wheel weight in reply to Adirondack case guy, 12-11-2012 14:15:37  
I don't think so, need to pull up a parts and see where these were all used

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Tommy Railsback

12-11-2012 14:05:20
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Re: 1370 wheel weight in reply to Case Nutty 1660, 12-11-2012 13:36:01  
That's Bill Simpson, a Case engineer who pioneered the concept of "rapid farming."

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Adirondack case guy

12-11-2012 15:07:51
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Re: 1370 wheel weight in reply to Tommy Railsback, 12-11-2012 14:05:20  

The concept was great. Before then a dealer would take lets say a 1030, and stack 1500# of weight on the front and load the rear tires with calcium and bolt on another ton of rear weights, so a farmer could pull a 6 Bottom plow, in 2nd gear. LOTTS of high torque being transmitted through the drivetrain !!! It took some educating to convince a farmer to be a little less "macho" and pull a 5 Bottom, without all that weight. We have hilly terain here, and carring that extra weight up hills made little sence when we had a heavy well balanced tractor to start with. That theory was what prompted us to start turboing tractors, and urging farmers to pull their imps. faster. Trans. life was extended 3 fold. and tire sidewall issues went away. The 1470s and 2470s set new standards for reduced compaction and productivity, when adhearing to this theory.
Loren
PS the second pic. is a slide rule calculator that I used a lot to show a farmer how he could pull a smaller imp., and cover more ground with less fuel.

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