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clint evans 01-22-2013 19:28:10 50.130.155.170 Report to Moderator	I know this has been discussed several times. But I am confussed. My wd or wd45 is serial# WD 279937 it does have a straight shifter. It does not have a bolt on plate on the right side of the engine. I checked the stroke and it is 4.5 inches. It does have a 3 point with draft control. The block number is WD 230995 GA. So what is it. It runs great and has over 35hp at the pto according to my dyno. [Reply]   [No Email]
Whichester1 01-26-2013 08:45:37 173.27.234.101 Report to Moderator	Re: wd or wd45 in reply to clint evans, 01-22-2013 19:28:10   Sounds like you might have a WD with a WD45 engine. [Reply]  [No Email]
Tramway guy 01-24-2013 06:43:39 173.165.138.182 Report to Moderator	Re: wd or wd45 in reply to clint evans, 01-22-2013 19:28:10   I Suggest that it is 27937. Whoever stamped it screwed up. [Reply]  [No Email]
Brian G. NY 01-24-2013 10:52:00 64.22.47.48 Report to Moderator	Re: wd or wd45 in reply to Tramway guy, 01-24-2013 06:43:39   Tramway Guy, Your presumption makes sense; that number would fall right in place with the engine number. 1949 [Reply]  [No Email]
chalmersbob(pa) 01-23-2013 19:42:02 71.175.235.69 Report to Moderator	Re: wd or wd45 in reply to clint evans, 01-22-2013 19:28:10   On a WD45 the block # should start with 45. On the WD the block # started with WD. A whole lot of things can be changed in 50+ years.Sounds like a mutt LOL Bob [Reply]  [No Email]
bg/mo 01-23-2013 19:22:41 209.183.32.50 Report to Moderator	Re: wd or wd45 in reply to clint evans, 01-22-2013 19:28:10   what kind of knob does the shifter have on the end ? threaded or push on? I have seen a wd 45 that somebody straightened the shifter on. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 01-23-2013 08:49:34 209.86.226.32 Report to Moderator	Re: wd or wd45 in reply to clint evans, 01-22-2013 19:28:10   I did not look the numbers up but just to let you know. The WD and WD45 engines can be swapped as easy as just taking the one out and putting the other in straight bolt on thing. Over the years many have had that done to them. Shoot when I got my W Speed Patrol it had a W45 engine sitting in it but that machine is based on the WC tractor. Also my WD45 has the straight shifter on it but I have run the numbers and it is a WD45 [Reply]  [No Email]
Brian G. NY 01-23-2013 12:18:23 64.22.47.48 Report to Moderator	Re: wd or wd45 in reply to old, 01-23-2013 08:49:34   Old, if it is a WD-45 it will have the tranny with the hellical cut gears. That transmission comes with a curved shifter. Allis began installing that newer tranny in the WDs starting with Ser.#127007 in 1952. The earlier WDs came equipped with straight cut geared trannys with a straight shifter. The two shifters are not compatible with one another without modification. That's not to say that a helical cut tranny could not have had a straight shifter adapted to it. For what reason, I cannot imagine, though. I agree that the 201 WD and 226 WD-45 engine blocks are interchangeble and that accounts for Allis furnishing the newer WD-45 block as a replacement for both the WD and WD-45 tractors once their stock of the earlier blocks was exhausted. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 01-23-2013 15:24:31 209.86.226.61 Report to Moderator	Re: wd or wd45 in reply to Brian G. NY, 01-23-2013 12:18:23   As I said the WD45 I have has the straight shifter on it or so close to straight it is not funny. I did check the numbers before we got it to make sure it was a WD45 since it had the straight shifter but the block did not have the bolt on plate so at first figure a mutt but found it to be a true WD45 [Reply]  [No Email]
Brian G. NY 01-23-2013 07:13:10 64.22.47.48 Report to Moderator	Re: wd or wd45 in reply to clint evans, 01-22-2013 19:28:10   The last "tractor" serial number of the WD-45 in 1957 was WD236958. Unless, someone went to a whole lot of trouble to stamp a "bogus" number on the rearend, it cannot be as you say. That "Engine" number is definitely 1949 vintage and an original block with that number would have been the 201 version with the side plate. When all the 201 blocks were used up, all replacement blocks were the new design without the side plate. Replacement blocks came to the dealer with no serial number stamped on them and the dealer was supposed to stamp the number from the replaced engine. I happen to own a WD-45 with a block with no serial number.I would guess that a WD block was replaced with the newer WD-45 style block at some point. However, if you are sure it has a 4-1/2" stroke, then apparently a WD-45 crank was installed when the other work was being done. A lot of things could have happened over the years and many parts wound up being swapped around to keep these old tractors going. If, your engine has the 4-1/2" crank and IF it has the correct WD-45 pistons and IF it is in reasonably good condition and tune, you should Dyno well over 35 HP. [Reply]  [No Email]
steeluttter 01-23-2013 06:17:53 69.8.164.77 Report to Moderator	Re: wd or wd45 in reply to clint evans, 01-22-2013 19:28:10   I belive it to be a 1956 WD45 and some one has been playing with number stamps. the gear shift lever can be swaped very easily [Reply]  [No Email]
Ted J 01-23-2013 05:27:06 68.115.53.205 Report to Moderator	Re: wd or wd45 in reply to clint evans, 01-22-2013 19:28:10   This just can't be. You have your serial # wrong. Go here to figure this out. http://people.clemson.edu/~wsmth/SNFind/esn_tsn6.htm Even if you have mistaken the 1 for a 7, it doesn't gibe. [Reply]  [No Email]
clint evans 01-23-2013 06:02:24 50.130.155.170 Report to Moderator	Re: wd or wd45 in reply to Ted J, 01-23-2013 05:27:06   The stamping is very clear I even scraped the paint off and the numbers are full of orange paint very easy to read. Found on left rear brake area. There is no mistake in the numbers this is what has me confused. [Reply]  [No Email]
funky_g00 01-22-2013 20:42:04 108.167.4.217 Report to Moderator	Re: wd or wd45 in reply to clint evans, 01-22-2013 19:28:10   By your numbers it is a 1957 wd45. The last year of production. Apparently your shifter must have been changed at some point as I was under the understanding that all 45's came with a curved shifter. [Reply]  [No Email]
LeonardWD45 01-22-2013 20:40:59 131.191.110.118 Report to Moderator	Re: wd or wd45 in reply to clint evans, 01-22-2013 19:28:10   Clint, sounds like you have one of the transition WD-45's. Some came with a straight shifter and the 226ci engine without the bolt on plate on the right hand side of the engine in 1953. Leonard [Reply]  [No Email]
Brian G. NY 01-23-2013 07:26:35 64.22.47.48 Report to Moderator	Re: wd or wd45 in reply to LeonardWD45, 01-22-2013 20:40:59   Clint, In 1952,(beginning with Ser.#127007) WDs came with the newer helical cut transmission and curved shifter but still came from the factory with the 201 engine with the side plate. In mid 1953, with Ser.#146607, the WD-45 replaced the WD and had the new much more powerful 226 engine with no side plate. [Reply]  [No Email]