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Brennon Raser

01-18-2013 07:23:14
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My 53 wd runs real choppy at idle. New plugs and wires. Cleaned all the contacts under the dist cap. Removed the air cleaner and cleaned everything, added new oil to the cup. I also removed the gas tank and cleaned the inside with grit, removing all the rust and other crud in there. Also removed the carb and soaked and cleaned it. Under load when pushing snow it runs great when the gov kicks in, no missing, it will push all day long. Any suggestions or is the popping and crackling somewhat normal? Thanks.

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Brennon Raser

02-18-2013 08:53:05
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 Re: WD missing at idle in reply to Brennon Raser, 01-18-2013 07:23:14  
After 2 good snowfalls up her this is what I found. After start up it was running real rough. Cleaned out the sediment bowl and let some gas run out of the carb bowl and it ran perfect. 1 week later it was running bad again, it would die under load. Cleaned out the sediment bowl again and let some gas out the carb float bowl and I pushed snow for 2 1/2 hours with barely a miss. Glad it was something simple, this time. Thanks for all your help.

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Will Herring

01-19-2013 11:34:42
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 Re: WD missing at idle in reply to Brennon Raser, 01-18-2013 07:23:14  
I had idling problems on my WD and it turned out the sediment bowl screen was partially clogged. Soaked it, let it dry in the sun, re-installed, and cleaned the carb inlet and it ran fine after that...

Sounds like you may be beyond that one, though.



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Brennon Raser

01-19-2013 07:38:07
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 Re: WD missing at idle in reply to Brennon Raser, 01-18-2013 07:23:14  
Thanks for all the info.



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Leon RCMo

01-18-2013 19:31:59
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 Re: WD missing at idle in reply to Brennon Raser, 01-18-2013 07:23:14  
Inside the carb. there is a thin metal riser between the bottom half and top half of the carb.
they have a thin lip that fits between the two halves, with your plyers bend the lip out a little all the way around. Keeps the vacuum steady at low RPM.



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old

01-19-2013 08:43:04
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 Re: WD missing at idle in reply to Leon RCMo, 01-18-2013 19:31:59  
The correct term for that is the venturi. You have to be careful when doing any thing to that part or you can end up buy a new one



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BushogPapa

01-18-2013 12:37:26
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 Re: WD missing at idle in reply to Brennon Raser, 01-18-2013 07:23:14  

Actually, it should idle perfect..but there could be wear anywhere in the Governor, Mag or Dist shaft systems..linkages, etc that would lead to that..
Even worn Valve-Guides...
Are you sure the timing is not Advanced..??
On my WD-45, there is a "Surge Spring" attached behind the carburetor..

Maybe yours needs one..?

Ron..

AC's generally run pretty "Sweet", if all is well..

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old

01-18-2013 08:28:13
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 Re: WD missing at idle in reply to Brennon Raser, 01-18-2013 07:23:14  
If your talking a low slow as in 500RPM guesstimate type speed yes pretty normal due to the lack of fuel and the low RPM. You might be able to improve on it some by adjusting the idle mixture screw. Remember that screw works back wards of the main jet so out is richer in is leaner



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Brennon Raser

01-18-2013 09:33:17
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 Re: WD missing at idle in reply to old, 01-18-2013 08:28:13  
Thanks Old, I will play with that a little. I have not tried that yet.



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old

01-18-2013 12:04:01
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 Re: WD missing at idle in reply to Brennon Raser, 01-18-2013 09:33:17  
Remember that idle adjustment screw if close to the top of the carb where it bolts to the manifold. Many say screw it in all the way to bottom but not super tight and then back it out 1-1/2 turns and then leave it. That is pretty much how I do it but I almost never run my machines at a low speed idle



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Tom in Berrien Springs MI

01-25-2013 12:47:15
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 Re: WD missing at idle in reply to old, 01-18-2013 12:04:01  
Had an old WC that blubbered at idle speed. A veteran AC mechanic told me to increase the spark plub gab to .040 - the engine now idles perfectly.



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Brennon Raser

02-18-2013 08:55:47
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 Re: WD missing at idle in reply to Tom in Berrien Springs MI, 01-25-2013 12:47:15  
After 2 good snowfalls up her this is what I found. After start up it was running real rough. Cleaned out the sediment bowl and let some gas run out of the carb bowl and it ran perfect. 1 week later it was running bad again, it would die under load. Cleaned out the sediment bowl again and let some gas out the carb float bowl and I pushed snow for 2 1/2 hours with barely a miss. Glad it was something simple, this time. Thanks for all your help.

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