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| anteek49
11-18-2012 11:47:24
71.51.76.152
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A model B is being offered locally.Quite respectable for its age,knee deep in fresh rubber. Has waterin the oil. They've tried stop leak.How does this tractor compare to a Farmall A? What would be a fair price for it? Any problem with getting parts? |
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| Dick L
11-19-2012 10:35:07
184.8.49.248
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Re: AC model b questions in reply to anteek49, 11-18-2012 11:47:24
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| A Farmall A will most likely cost you more in the same condition. If they have used a bunch of stop leak it should stop an O ring leak for a short time. If it is a crack in a sleeve or a hole in a core plug in the head it will not do a thing. When not fit correctly the sleeves can crack at the top lip from cocking and only replacing them will fix the leak. |
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| Bob Huntress
11-18-2012 23:10:03
184.41.92.132
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Re: AC model b questions in reply to anteek49, 11-18-2012 11:47:24
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| I'm guessing that since you say the current owner has been trying to fix the water that it is not simply condensation. As someone else has already mentioned, the big cause for coolant leaking internally is O ring on the sleeve. It is about the same, except brand to the Farmall A. I had an Allis Chambers B. It was the first tractor that I got when I moved south. I got it very cheap, and compared to many other tractors, I mistakenly thought I had gotten a great deal on a tractor that once I got fixed up and running would be worth a noteworthy profit. The reality is that while the tractor is a nice little machine, it isn't worth a lot of money. When mine was finally at the point that I considered selling it, it was running, in solid enough shape but not rebuilt. I searched Craigslist throughout West Tennessee, Northern Mississippi and eastern Arkansa to see what others were selling them for. This was in 2008 or so. I found a bunch that were in almost brand new condition for under a thousand dollars, and some even came with the belly mower. If the Allis Chambers B that you are looking at were in great shape without the water and could operate in it's current state, I still wouldn't pay more than $1000 for it. I think it's a great tractor, and all. I liked mine, but, they simply don't have any cash value. Does the one you are looking at have an adjustable front end or a solid? Does it still have the 6volt system, or has it been upgraded to a 12, and what changes have they done with that if so? Does it have tractor tires or have they replaced them with automotive tires, and have they welded the wheels to the hubs? How much I would offer would depend on how great the tractor condition is in. Sorry, but if the tractor is needing repairs, and has had some off the wall things done to it, I would offer as little as a few hundred. It isn't just because I am cheap. If I put one in the shop out back, and my daughter and I work a year rebuilding it, and return it to brand new condition, I still will never get more than a thousand dollars for it. The Allis Chambers B just isn't worth much money. |
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| steve(ill)
11-18-2012 18:21:31
74.36.185.24
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Re: AC model b questions in reply to anteek49, 11-18-2012 11:47:24
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| Pull the hood and valve cover and look at the 3 plugs under the rocker arm. Good chance one has a hole rusted thru it. |
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| Jerry Coulter
11-18-2012 16:07:51
50.40.165.22
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Re: AC model b questions in reply to anteek49, 11-18-2012 11:47:24
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| Typical cause for a leak is bad o-rings around the cylinder. You need to determine that it was not frozen and cracked. Maybe freeze plug rusted out. Cadillac dealers might still stock a stop leak that was designed for the North-Star engine, good stuff. The Allis B was a direct competitor to the Farmall A. Parts are mostly available. In my experience, the steering gear is the weakest thing on that tractor and difficult to deal with. |
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| Ted in NE-OH
11-18-2012 15:55:05
72.16.19.80
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Re: AC model b questions in reply to anteek49, 11-18-2012 11:47:24
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| Water in oil may be as simple as rusted out freeze plugs in head, an easy fix. No problem getting parts. Great little tractor. |
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