bruce . whiteman wrote on Monday, May 24, 2004 (PDT): very good article-- I have had 8 & 9 N's for 40 yrs. the only problem I have now is sometimes when the lever is moved back for the 3 pt to lift it won't go only if you pull forward on the upper control. assempbly toward the spring ?????? Bruce/ Don Espinosa wrote on Saturday, October 09, 2004 (PDT): My problem is that the 3point hitch will not come up. I took the inspection plate off and the pump appears to be working. I am stuck. Thank you for any help you can give me. I am a novice but have the repair manual. the 3point worked until I evidently pushed the lever to far down, if that is possible. JIM WEISBRUCH wrote on Tuesday, November 09, 2004 (PST): Question - have 8N front dis. - front plow will not come down and the lever feels like it is disconnected in up or down. When i move the short lever under the seat to the forward down position and back to up position - blade drops and all up and down is normal for a while. Sure am fit to be tied with this - fresh oil. Can you help me? Thanks tom wrote on Saturday, November 13, 2004 (PST): Exactly right. If there were only some photos it would make it easier to follow. Made me first afraid to remove the right things, and now that I see what happened. I see I might have caused the problem by loosening the wrong bolts on the top cover, starting, and blowing the gasket holding the cyl. thanks again for posting Tom Waydelis wrote on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 (PDT): Zane, Where do i find a live hydraulic device ? please send me More info. Tom Lyndal Britt wrote on Sunday, July 17, 2005 (PDT): 52 8N. Lift will come up without load but will not lift with load applied. Replaced cylinder and piston and rings because of running leak. Did not solve problem. There is oil swirl near the pump. Could the relief valve be bad? Dave Belfer-Shevett wrote on Friday, July 22, 2005 (PDT): I did the exact same thing visiting an 8N I grew up with. I blogged about it, and even posted pictures. blue wrote on Saturday, August 13, 2005 (PDT): !!! BLW wrote on Saturday, October 08, 2005 (PDT): liked your article very much, but I have a different prob.em, one I have never seen-- when I pull the lift handle back the three point goes up- but when I have a heavy load on it, it will only go up if I pull forward on the upper link-,- the top link with the spring, and not if the tip link is connected to the top link arm to what ever implement I have on the tractor-- any Ideas tony thornton wrote on Monday, March 06, 2006 (PST): I have massey ferguson to30 and the lift goes up put has soon as you push in on the clutch it falls to the ground Mike wrote on Monday, July 10, 2006 (PDT): Great article. I'm sure there are thousands of guys out there (i'm one of them) who share the memories and experiences of a piece of equipment. A person buys equipment to do dirty work, who would think it'd bring back such great memories? Rick Bampton wrote on Monday, August 21, 2006 (PDT): BE SURE THAT THE PTO IS ENGAGED UNLESS YOU HAVE ONE OF MY LIVE HYDRAULIC DEVICES WHICH WILL ALLOW YOU TO USE THE THREE POINT HITCH WITHOUT THE PTO IN OPERATION OR THE CLUTCH ENGAGED rick Bampton wrote on Monday, August 21, 2006 (PDT): Please disregard the previous email. I was reading an article you have on hydraulic problems and came across this below. Can you tell me what it is and how much it costs to install this feature? "BE SURE THAT THE PTO IS ENGAGED UNLESS YOU HAVE ONE OF MY LIVE HYDRAULIC DEVICES WHICH WILL ALLOW YOU TO USE THE THREE POINT HITCH WITHOUT THE PTO IN OPERATION OR THE CLUTCH ENGAGED" Mr Bob wrote on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 (PST): What a great story. I hope you can get the Massey back some day. You are fortunate to have been able to locate it. My feelings about the Massey Ferguson 65 that I once operated on my dad's farm are about like yours. I've never been able to relocate it. That tractor always gave me the feeling of sitting down low on a powerful beast. My 5'1o" carcass always seemed to fit so comfortable on a Ford "red and grey" or a Massey. They are by far my favorites. Good luck in your effort to gain possession of your "old friend". Garry Thompson wrote on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 (PST): I know the feeling My Grandfather purchased a TO35 in 1958 I was 8 years old and Ill not forget him letting me drive it around in 3RD low range It was one tuff little tractor Two years later my dad bought a freeman loader for it, 30 years later my sister bought it at our farm sale and it run until three years ago and they sold it Gene Jenkins wrote on Saturday, August 04, 2007 (PDT): I m having a real hard time trying to get my relief valve out. I cut off a 11/16Wrench but couldn t get enough pull to break the valve loose. Any suggestions Thanks, Gene danct wrote on Saturday, February 02, 2008 (PST): i know the feeling ,you wont be complete till you find a way to get it back ,part of you ,your dad and that tractor are bound together for life , find a way Danny skip meyer wrote on Sunday, February 03, 2008 (PST): my hydralic system was working fine. I was scrapping with a blade, it made a pop type sound, It wouldn't pick up the blade. Without a load the arms raise, but I can push them down with my hand. What do you suspesct? Don Posten wrote on Saturday, June 06, 2009 (PDT): Any help or suggestions would really be appreciated. Thanks Don Jerry Archer wrote on Friday, August 14, 2009 (PDT): Zane- Thanks a lot for your help on my 1940 9N 3 point lift problem. My system had a lot of water and Brown liquid that smelled like Kerosene in it. Replaced system with 5 Gallons of minereal oil and now it works like brand new. Thanks again Zane Jim Johnson wrote on Friday, September 04, 2009 (PDT): I guess I should have included that I'm talking about a 1950 8N and that after only changing the hydraulic fluid, the lift is now all the way down and won't raise. Jeff Gammon wrote on Friday, December 04, 2009 (PST): Zane, how do you set up live hydraulics on a 8n. I saw a picture where you had added a pump on yours. 'what else hase to be done. Thanks, Jeff mike porter wrote on Friday, May 14, 2010 (PDT): one thing left out of the article is the grade of oil. ford and ferguson to & te also use this oil, known as ep-90! it's available at most tractor supply stores,(tsc.) and car quest auto parts stores will order it for you in 5 gallon pails, or 2.5 gal. containers. the ep stands for extreme pressure, and if you use hy-trans oil in a 2-8- or 9n , when the oil heats up, your hydraulics can go away, leaving you thinking the pump is weak. ep-90 cures most of these symtoms as long as your pump and check valve are in good shape. Bob Stalmach wrote on Monday, June 14, 2010 (PDT): Thanks for this good info. to get me started in the right direction. Bob Stalmach wrote on Monday, June 14, 2010 (PDT): Thanks for this good info. to get me started in the right direction. jack cleaver wrote on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 (PDT): as others looking for info on this live hyd setup web site is shut down anybody got contact info Sam Parish wrote on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 (PDT): I also would like to contact Zane about one of his devices--I am having a hydraulic pump problem on a Ford 4000--pump has been rebuilt but loses it's prime over night-- Denny Harris wrote on Sunday, September 26, 2010 (PDT): I have a TO20. The lever that engages & disengages the pto seems stuck. I've taken off the inspection plate, but can't see anything wrong. Do I need to remove the top plate that the seat bolts on? If so what needs to come off? Thanks Glen Quigley wrote on Monday, November 01, 2010 (PDT): Thanks for the post which gave me the confindence to remove the side cover, drain and clean the sludge, and ultimately free the stuck value. Much appreciated. The information that is available on the net is amazing. Thanks so much for sharing what is a precious, information. Jim Will wrote on Monday, November 08, 2010 (PST): Hi I understand that feeling. I had a Case 530 CK loader backhoe that I used for near 30 years. Every time I see one as I am driving by, I think of my old 530. Jim Will Art P wrote on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 (PST): This helped me on my son's 801 tractor. Thanks Rusty Rose wrote on Monday, October 31, 2011 (PDT): I followed all posts and did not see problem. Finally pulled pump and intake valve was stuck in the pump. Polished it and got it coming out when the linkage moved and problem solved. First time I heard of this problem. Rusty Rose wrote on Monday, October 31, 2011 (PDT): I followed all posts and did not see problem. Finally pulled pump and intake valve was stuck in the pump. Polished it and got it coming out when the linkage moved and problem solved. First time I heard of this problem. Terry Carpenter wrote on Saturday, December 03, 2011 (PST): i have the same problem as Jim johnson, September 04, 2009. I have did a rebuild on the pump to no avail. The pump works but does not have any out put. mike porter wrote on Saturday, July 14, 2012 (PDT): trans. oil is also a critical solution to hyd. problems on n-series fords and t-o fergusons. the correct oil is e-p 90, available from carquest parts stores, also t-s-c stores. it's not 80-90 gear oil, the e-p designation is for extreme pressure. while hy-trans might work for some, e-p 90 is made to give optimum pressure for ford and ferguson tractors. waylon bryan wrote on Monday, March 04, 2013 (PST): My hyd. cyl. broke the whole end sheared off. I have one on order but what would cause the end to break off? If you have a idea please let me know. Thanks Waylon Luis wrote on Wednesday, April 03, 2013 (PDT): Pops - Great pictures and what fun we had. We slhuod do it again.I really like the close-up pic of the fFrd. It looks like it slhuod be on the cover of an antique magazine.I think your shoot on the 15th will bw great ..hope the weather cooperates.Lopve, Pops Stuart Mason wrote on Wednesday, June 26, 2013 (PDT): My lift is acting very lazy. I changed the fluid but changed nothing.when it goes up its jumpy all the way up, and slow. can you make the lift on an 8n a live lift, if so how. thanks JesseL wrote on Saturday, July 12, 2014 (PDT): Very well done. Think our problem in the linkage. Have completely rebuilt the pump and has a new cylinder and piston. Terry wrote on Thursday, September 25, 2014 (PDT): My 8n lift is very weak. Light implements lift high, heavy implements barely clear the ground. I have replaced gaskets and valves and put in heavier oil. There is a little play between the piston pump and the valve chamber, could this be the problem? glover priar wrote on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 (PST): Zane, i am interested in your device for giving 8n Fords live hydraulic. Thanks. Rick Z wrote on Friday, May 15, 2015 (PDT): I recently inherited a 54 ford naa. After changing the hydraulic oil, the three point still didn't work. Research showed me that blowing compressed air into the hydraulic dip stick tube would remove air pockets in the system. Success! My question to you is,what is the proper use of the diagonal slotted braces on the three point hitch? Thanks Rick Z wrote on Friday, May 15, 2015 (PDT): I recently inherited a 54 ford naa. After changing the hydraulic oil, the three point still didn't work. Research showed me that blowing compressed air into the hydraulic dip stick tube would remove air pockets in the system. Success! My question to you is,what is the proper use of the diagonal slotted braces on the three point hitch? Thanks dale james wrote on Saturday, May 30, 2015 (PDT): My 1947 8N was working fine in bush hogging on day and the next day not.The lift raises by itself as long as the pto is engagged.The driveshaft of the bush hog will hit the mower.housing until I dise jack wrote on Wednesday, July 15, 2015 (PDT): Great article on repairing hydraulics 8n etc. Would like to see the same kind of info. on 1956 ford 800 hydraulics Trace wrote on Tuesday, March 15, 2016 (PDT): Lift will only lift about 50 lbs. I went to lift it in the winter and the blade was froze to the ground. The from of the tractor came up. I took the spud bar to the blade and broke it loose. Then the lift would not work. I opened the inspection plate on the right and saw oil shooting straight up from the center of the pump slightly right. So I dropped the pump out and replaced the safety valve and inspected the gaskets. They looked good. I put it all back with new fluid and still no lift. Now I have the entire pump apart looking for something?? I see a strange hole in the housing in the rear lower left corner. Looks like it is chipped out or maybe should not be there at all??? There is a channel from the outside of the pump housing leading to this mystery hole so maybe it should be there. Any one got any ideas? Don e b wrote on Saturday, March 19, 2016 (PDT): Great advice been 2 months bring 8n back 2 life thanks alot Jerry Steudel wrote on Tuesday, August 09, 2016 (PDT): lift does not go down. spring under intake valve needs stretching or replaced. where is it located? does the pump need to be removed to accomplish William D Fails wrote on Wednesday, July 26, 2017 (PDT): Very thorough information The lift on my 8N would not raise implements high enough. The problem was length short spring. It 8s better now. jesse wrote on Tuesday, October 10, 2017 (PDT): Does the clutch have to be engaged on the 8n for the lift to work Steven Stott wrote on Tuesday, January 09, 2018 (PST): Hello- I have a question - I had the engine rebuilt and the hydraulics as well - so I was surprised when the lift will not come all the way up- then all of a sudden it will pick up like it should-then it won't. I also use Traveller's Ford Hydraulic Oil 90 weight. The heaviest thing I have picked up is a 2 Bottom plow and it only clears the ground about 2 inches and then it will lift it about 12 inches. The oil is clean, it was about 60 degrees- so what now ? Terence Harper wrote on Monday, March 19, 2018 (PDT): Thanks for the addtion - this will save me a lot of time to isolate the issues i'm having Pete koch wrote on Monday, February 10, 2020 (PST): Okay, here's my problem. 1950 Ford 8N blew up. Hydraulic pump ordered one from Amazon Hydraulics we're working late before it blew up. But the one from Amazon in there. And it work good. But as soon as you put weight on like the trailer hitch. It would just keep going up. So I thought it was the pump. 8,10 blew up died Robin ordered one from amazon hydraulics were working late before it blew up put the one from amazon in there and it work good but as soon as you put weight on like the trailer hitch it would just keep going up so I thought it was the pump Got my money back from that pump. And bought an American-made one off of one of the tractor companies. Put that in did the same thing. They told me it was linkage. So I ordered three sets of used linkage. Set it all up the way the manual says to do it. Put it back together. And it still does not work, right? When there is no weight on it. You can control the trailer hitch up and down with no problem. got my money back from that pump and bought an american-made one of the one of the tractor companies but that in did the same thing they told me it was linkage so I ordered three used linkage and all tight Set it up just like the manual says to adjust everything. Put it back together. I run it with no wait. Goes up and fine If I stand on it. And start moving it up. It just keeps going all the way up even though you're controlling it down. I talked to a couple tracker companies and they don't know what to tell me. Does anybody know what could be the problem? I'd appreciate some help on it. EdinKS wrote on Tuesday, June 14, 2022 (PDT): Hey there. Nice article. Don't know where you are at, but there is a 202 at auction on June 15th in Fennimore Wisconsin at Jeff's Tractors. Maybe you could win it, get it running and trade it for your dad's old machine. Long shot, but hope you can get your old friend, even if it costs you a bit more it will be worth it! Anthony Hurtado wrote on Monday, August 21, 2023 (PDT): You mention a live hydraulic pie e of yours, what is this? My 8n has too much fluid. Would this cause it not to raise?

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